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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 11:26 am
(October 10, 2013 at 11:12 am)FallentoReason Wrote: I guess I put faith in our resident theists that they have some ounce of rational thought to their beliefs - that they aren't just nilly willy believing just 'cause - and I was hoping to understand these thought processes behind their view of a particular fragment of reality. But it seems like I'll just have to accept disappointment.
And they have the guts to carry on preaching, as if they are perfectly rational in all they believe 
Much smarter men than they have tried and failed to explain it.
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 11:50 am
(October 10, 2013 at 11:26 am)Faith No More Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 11:12 am)FallentoReason Wrote: I guess I put faith in our resident theists that they have some ounce of rational thought to their beliefs - that they aren't just nilly willy believing just 'cause - and I was hoping to understand these thought processes behind their view of a particular fragment of reality. But it seems like I'll just have to accept disappointment.
And they have the guts to carry on preaching, as if they are perfectly rational in all they believe
Much smarter men than they have tried and failed to explain it.
That's true. Why carry on believing it though...
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 11:56 am
Quote:"The single combination of pressure and temperature at which pure water, pure ice, and pure water vapour can coexist in a stable equilibrium occurs at exactly 273.16 kelvins (0.01 °C) and a pressure of 611.73 pascals (ca. 6.1173 millibars, 0.0060373057 atm). At that point, it is possible to change all of the substance to ice, water, or vapor by making infinitesimally small changes in pressure and temperature."
How could a bunch of ignorant 3d century (when the "trinity" was first proposed) peasants attain those conditions outside of a lab?
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 12:00 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 11:56 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:"The single combination of pressure and temperature at which pure water, pure ice, and pure water vapour can coexist in a stable equilibrium occurs at exactly 273.16 kelvins (0.01 °C) and a pressure of 611.73 pascals (ca. 6.1173 millibars, 0.0060373057 atm). At that point, it is possible to change all of the substance to ice, water, or vapor by making infinitesimally small changes in pressure and temperature."
How could a bunch of ignorant 3d century (when the "trinity" was first proposed) peasants attain those conditions outside of a lab?
Revelation! 
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 12:07 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 11:22 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Aquinas said if anyone says they understand the trinity, they are lying. Even he said he didn't get it.
What it is though, is unequivocal proof of how humans cooked up this shit
I think I'm of the opinion that anything which purports to be too difficult for humans to understand is totally false. And I'm not talking about "I don't know" answers, I mean all the woo in religion and pseudoscience that they come up with to avoid having to explain their woo.
"Why does an all-loving god allow suffering? God's mind is too complex for humans to understand." Translation: "It's bullshit."
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 12:07 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 11:50 am)FallentoReason Wrote: That's true. Why carry on believing it though...
Because the alternative is polytheism, and that's just silly. 
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 3:44 pm
42 ??
the question to the answer??
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm
The trinity can be explained thusly:
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"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Wait, we're not talking about 3-way, are we? What forum am I on?
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RE: An Explanation of the Trinity?
October 10, 2013 at 5:38 pm
No we're talking about big daddy, junior and the spook.
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