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The most important reason anyone is an atheist
RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(October 10, 2013 at 1:48 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: So that's your reply to a very complex and multifaceted evolutionary trait of a fluid society which has demonstrably led to decreasing affiliations in societies that exhibit greater sexual emancipation for girls and women? Do you realise how ignorant that comes across?

I want to hear/read what you think. I made a lot of other points in my post, and even posted some evidence that you can look up yourself. Nothing to say on that either?

*coughs*

Why do you you think we have gender equality, or racial equality or whatever else kind equality you care to mention in the first place? Christian values my friend, the teachings of the gospels and the equal worth of man (including women) before God. Your values are Christian values to the bone.
Which only came about in the late 19th century?... Took you guys 1400 years to get there...

I smell a rat....
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 10, 2013 at 2:01 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Bollocks. Utter Tripe.

Counter with something worth discussing or don't bother responding at all.

Seeing as you seem unable to grasp the basic sociological and political points I made earlier without resorting to basic assertions and assumptions, I will conclude you are unable to. 'Equality'. You know nothing about the word, or the concept, or the history of it.

Have fun.

Equality and humanistic principals are what Jesus taught and many of the our civil rights movements and other acts such as the abolition of the slave trade were inspired by Christian morality. Not to say other religions don't teach some good morality but they didn't necessarily all teach equality of rights and status. In India for example they have a caste system and in the Islamic world men are still dominant to women something you may have noticed. You don't poo poo the achievements of Christian civilization or claim them in the name of atheism. Atheism did nothing at all.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(October 10, 2013 at 1:48 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: So that's your reply to a very complex and multifaceted evolutionary trait of a fluid society which has demonstrably led to decreasing affiliations in societies that exhibit greater sexual emancipation for girls and women? Do you realise how ignorant that comes across?

I want to hear/read what you think. I made a lot of other points in my post, and even posted some evidence that you can look up yourself. Nothing to say on that either?

*coughs*

Why do you you think we have gender equality, or racial equality or whatever else kind equality you care to mention in the first place? Christian values my friend, the teachings of the gospels and the equal worth of man (including women) before God. Your values are Christian values to the bone.

A little bit of sick just appeared in the back of my mouth.

Can't wait for the next instalment of "re-writing history" staring Sword of Christ.

Christian values including: Human Sacrifice, Slavery, support for fascist regimes, sexual INequality, repression of homosexuals, the Spanish Inquisition......
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 10, 2013 at 2:06 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(October 10, 2013 at 2:01 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Bollocks. Utter Tripe.

Counter with something worth discussing or don't bother responding at all.

Seeing as you seem unable to grasp the basic sociological and political points I made earlier without resorting to basic assertions and assumptions, I will conclude you are unable to. 'Equality'. You know nothing about the word, or the concept, or the history of it.

Have fun.

Equality and humanistic principals are what Jesus taught and many of the our civil rights movements and other acts such as the abolition of the slave trade were inspired by Christian morality. Not to say other religions don't teach some good morality but they didn't necessarily all teach equality of rights and status. In India for example they have a caste system and in the Islamic world men are still dominant to women something you may have noticed. You don't poo poo the achievements of Christian civilization or claim them in the name of atheism. Atheism did nothing at all.

Knowing the scientific fact that humans existed long before the concoction of Christianity, or even Hebrews, what makes you think anything good or bad a human can do did not exist prior to the invention of your pet superstition? And what makes you think people outside your superstition today cant come to the same conclusions about morality?

Christopher Hitchens, "Name me one good thing said, or good deed done, a believer could do that an atheist could not do".
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 10, 2013 at 2:06 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(October 10, 2013 at 2:01 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Bollocks. Utter Tripe.

Counter with something worth discussing or don't bother responding at all.

Seeing as you seem unable to grasp the basic sociological and political points I made earlier without resorting to basic assertions and assumptions, I will conclude you are unable to. 'Equality'. You know nothing about the word, or the concept, or the history of it.

Have fun.

Equality and humanistic principals are what Jesus taught and many of the our civil rights movements and other acts such as the abolition of the slave trade were inspired by Christian morality. Not to say other religions don't teach some good morality but they didn't necessarily all teach equality of rights and status. In India for example they have a caste system and in the Islamic world men are still dominant to women something you may have noticed. You don't poo poo the achievements of Christian civilization or claim them in the name of atheism. Atheism did nothing at all.

Your willful ignorance makes me sick, and only reveals just how intellectually (and morally) vacant you really are. The best thing Christianity ever did for the world was formulate the current system of statecraft every advanced society operates; namely secularism. The establishment of structures abolishing illegitimate religious institutions interfering in the matters of a sovereign state. I don't expect you to understand that.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
So SoC is having his religion take credit for gender equality now?

It's true. 50 years from now they'll be taking credit for marriage equality too.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
They may even take credit for developing nuclear fusion...
The world needs a credits reel on everything, or else these guys just take it away!
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
1 Corinthians 14:34
The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
Christian Domestic Discipline

Quote:A Domestic Discipline (DD) marriage is one in which one partner is given authority over the other, and has the means to back up that authority, usually by spanking. The application and practise of DD in each marriage is as unique as the individuals who make up that marriage. There is no "One Ring of Power" in the Domestic Discipline world, to which all DD couples must bow; no singular path to "true DD enlightenment". What works well for one DD couple may not be a good fit for another marriage. Therefore, you may see many different suggestions espoused on this site and elsewhere.

A Christian Domestic Discipline (CDD) marriage is simply a traditional, male-led, Christian marriage which utilises aspects of Domestic Discipline. It is set up according to Biblical standards.

Therefore, in a CDD marriage:

The husband is the head of the household, whilst the wife is submissive to her husband as if the Lord Himself was her husband. See Eph. 5:22-24.
The husband is to love his wife as himself, and as Christ loved the church. He is to be a servant, and leads by example. He is to lay down his life for her. See Eph. 5:25-29.
The wife is to reverence her husband. She is to obey him, so long as his instructions are not in opposition to God's commands. See Titus 2:5, Acts 5:29.

He has the ultimate authority in his household, but this authority is tempered with the knowledge that he will answer to God for his actions and decisions. The final decision rests with him, and therefore, the final responsibility, whatever the outcome, is his to bear. A wise husband will not make a major decision without prayerfully asking God for wisdom, and without seeking his wife's counsel. Prov. 20:5
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 10, 2013 at 11:05 am)ChadWooters Wrote: And exactly what evidence do you have that physical reduction is true, especially since it is so strongly counterintuitive?

Strongly counterintuitive? You do realize that is saying that there must be more to my mind because my mind tells me so? Given the flaws of the human brain and its desire to perceive things in a manner that keep it at ease, saying physical reduction is counterintuitive is a bold statement that you can't possible defend properly.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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