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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 2:23 am
There's also the assumption, not demonstrated, that "the mind> matter," which I don't think Snowy can even begin to argue for. For one, I doubt he has a qualitative scale for what he's talking about, just an intuitive presupposition relying on the idea that he's so extra special, but also he'd be arguing that the entirety of the universe is less "great" than a single mind, which... is shaky, especially when we consider the quality of his mind. 
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 2:33 am
(July 15, 2014 at 2:03 am)Esquilax Wrote: (July 15, 2014 at 1:52 am)snowtracks Wrote: the cause is always greater than effect. the mind exist, so it didn't originate from the mindless.
I think we need to acquaint you with a couple things, like nuclear bombs or landslides, or grenades. nuclear: E=MC^2 energy converted from matter at light squared results in an explosion.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 2:38 am
(July 15, 2014 at 1:15 am)snowtracks Wrote: (July 10, 2014 at 1:13 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: It's hard to wrap your head around the concept of "nothing" because everything in our reality is in fact "something". Therefore it's hard to think about what "nothing" is and its properties. The quantum foam theory attempts to explain how everything came from nothing. It makes a lot more sense than the Catholic theory of the Big Bang does. krauss said in his book: “There is something simply because if there were nothing, we wouldn’t find ourselves living there!”
so that would mean since things are here, it didn't come from 'nothing'.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 2:40 am
(July 15, 2014 at 2:33 am)snowtracks Wrote: (July 15, 2014 at 2:03 am)Esquilax Wrote: I think we need to acquaint you with a couple things, like nuclear bombs or landslides, or grenades. nuclear: E=MC^2 energy converted from matter at light squared results in an explosion.
But the cause of the explosion is just dropping the bomb. 
See how it is, when you make stupid generalizations based on vaguely defined terms to support mystic woo? All you need is one exception to prove your rule false.
I provided three. Even if I am to accept your comment here, that still leaves you two down. Why is it that christians seem to think that addressing one thing on a list makes the rest of the list disappear? 
Hey, a few years back there was a bushfire that started in my area. The cause for that was the sparks from an angle grinder hitting some dry grass, but it ended up destroying several homes and consuming quite a lot of land. Small cause, great effect.
You're fucking wrong.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 2:40 am
"Where did the universe come from?"
Well... I thought it up this morning while sitting on my throne.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm
(July 15, 2014 at 1:52 am)snowtracks Wrote: the cause is always greater than effect. the mind exist, so it didn't originate from the mindless.
Sure about that?
Cause:
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 1:13 pm
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(July 15, 2014 at 2:40 am)ShaMan Wrote: "Where did the universe come from?"
Well... I thought it up this morning while sitting on my throne. I always wondered who was behind that. I almost had the answer this morning but I was distracted by the business of causing the sun to rise from my throne. No need to thank me. It's just another service I provide.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 10:50 pm
(July 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (July 15, 2014 at 1:52 am)snowtracks Wrote: the cause is always greater than effect. the mind exist, so it didn't originate from the mindless.
Sure about that?
Cause:
plus
Effect:
fire is greater than burning.
the cause always precedes the effect; therefore the effect is dependent on the cause which makes the cause > effect.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 15, 2014 at 11:03 pm
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Fire -is- burning... the cause is what of the cause? ....... jesus christ that was retarded.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
July 16, 2014 at 12:04 am
(July 15, 2014 at 10:50 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (July 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Sure about that?
Cause:
plus
Effect:
fire is greater than burning.
the cause always precedes the effect; therefore the effect is dependent on the cause which makes the cause > effect.
Yes, the cause always precedes the effect BY DEFINITION. This does not mean the cause is greater than the effect.
Here is another example where the cause is less than the effect. Cause: pushing on a surface with your finger. Effect: power comes from the battery to light up the screen, load an operating system, setup the gui interface, automatically connect to the a network of computers around the world, so the user can post a stupid claim.
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