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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.



Christianity: the intense need to seek out people who are different than you and tell them what they believe.


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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 19, 2013 at 6:14 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Heck for the stars to form at all the laws of physics had to be tuned to absolute perfection

You keep saying shit like this, and yet, when challenged, you have failed to mention even one single parameter, explain it's significance to your argument, and explain how it must be exactly what it is in order for some phenomenon to be possible.

You know what? Until you can back your assertions with something more than bullshit, you're not going to be taken seriously by pretty much anyone here.

Will this get through to you? I doubt it.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Someone took him seriously?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
I'll just repeat that a universe that must be tuned to specific settings in order to support life is not a universe created by god, because it implies that if any of the settings were off by just a tiny fraction, god would be unable to create life. God cannot be limited by a universe that he created right down to the very laws of physics that theists claim must be tuned and balanced to an extraordinary level of precision.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 19, 2013 at 8:27 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Someone took him seriously?

Not so far as I can tell. Angel
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 19, 2013 at 6:15 pm)apophenia Wrote: Christianity: the intense need to seek out people who are different than you and tell them what they believe.

In a condescending and sanctimonious manner.

We're just lucky it isn't contagious.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 19, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
Quote:yesterday u stated god is eternity
a moment ago u stated god is god

God is the eternal creator of the universe and all beings who exist. That's the idea what did you think God was exactly?


Quote: i asked u to what r u praying ...eternity ?? or god ??

Well God of course, much of what I practice is contemplative prayer though I have some favored verbal prayers. Not all of them are Christian prayers I throw the odd Hindu and Buddhist one in there, there's a good Zoroastrian prayer I like as well. But you can't beat a good Lords Prayer a particularly potent one if you pray it well.

"Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your Kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our sins,
as we forgive those who sin against us.
Lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For the kingdom,
the power and the glory are yours.
Now and for ever.
Amen."

Try it yourself, make sure you put some meaning into it. For contemplative prayer and counting prayer that has a number of repetitions I find a rosary useful.

u still didnt answer my question ..u just changed eternity in eternal ..
and made god into an eternal creator.

so now he creates eternally ??

where is that to be found in the bible??


i have a new prayer for u ...more according to reality

Our nonexisting skyfairy, hollow is thy name.
your nonexising kingdom will never come, your nonexisting so there is no will

Give us today our daily stupidity. u cant forgive us our sins and we are so arrogant to lie to atheists

Lead us to stupidity but deliver us from intellectuality

For the kingdom the power and the glory are for our gau-leiters on earth

Now and forever a big bank account

Sieg Heil, glory to our nonexisting fuhrer in the sky


now, do u pray to eternity ?? or god??

p.s. ur gawd isnt eternal nor living outside of time...........2Pe:3:8: “But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”...

so again ur own scripture ptoves ur a liar ..just as last time...
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
It's here...who really cares?

That being said, I want to know the activity at the moment of the Big Bang before superinflation began.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Humans can of course appreciate the natural beauty of the God created universe if you want to bring up sunsets. What you're looking at is a God made piece of art.

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Christian logic: I find something aesthetically pleasing, therefore it was made just for me.

Yet more arrogance from someone who takes everything in the universe and interprets it through a filter of how it can serve him.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 20, 2013 at 12:36 am)daandaan Wrote: u still didnt answer my question ..u just changed eternity in eternal ..
and made god into an eternal creator.

Undecided??

Quote:so now he creates eternally ??

where is that to be found in the bible??

It's part of the whole sub-context/theme of the entire thing.


Quote:Our nonexisting skyfairy, hollow is thy name.
your nonexising kingdom will never come, your nonexisting so there is no will

Who told you God doesn't exist and why do you believe them?


Quote:p.s. ur gawd isnt eternal nor living outside of time...........2Pe:3:8: “But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”...

He's relational to the time he created and his creatures within time I already explained that.

Quote:so again ur own scripture ptoves ur a liar ..just as last time...

It proves God is relational to time as we experience it and it's all his creation. Time, space, matter, energy and all the physical laws. But all of this just arranged itself randomly by pure blind chance didn't it? I'd like to know how you know this as you given that you seem to so sure. Did someone just tell you this was the case and you believed them without thinking about it?
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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