Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

[Esquilax]

the universe has a measurable sample size of one. appeal to some form of multiverse is metaphysics speculation and doesn't uphold the scientific method. the only reason to wonder over to a non-measurable speculation is an priori position that a Supreme Being can't be supra dimensional to time, space, energy, and matter; and as such is not subject to the principle of cause and effect that would require that Being to have a beginning.

Are you seriously so completely lacking in self awareness that you'll tell other people they can't propose things that don't jive with the scientific method, mister "god is outside the universe!"

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Kitan Etos]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

The same thing that is wrong with all theists.

[Ksa]

the universe has a measurable sample size of one. appeal to some form of multiverse is metaphysics speculation and doesn't uphold the scientific method. the only reason to wonder over to a non-measurable speculation is an priori position that a Supreme Being can't be supra dimensional to time, space, energy, and matter; and as such is not subject to the principle of cause and effect that would require that Being to have a beginning.

So you don't want to talk about the multiverse theory because it is speculative and unscientific, but, you'll talk about how and when to pray in order to enter the kingdom of heaven?

That's why I say snowtracks is being a bit disingenious in his analysis.

[Angrboda]

[Coffee Jesus]

You didn't understand a word he said, did you?

Yeeaaah, my post had absolutely nothing to do with the multiverse hypothesis. I was merely accusing the theistic explanation of circularity.

Why would a god necessarily want to make humans? Because the god thinks like humans do.
Why must the god think like a human? Because otherwise the god wouldn't have made people.

[snowtracks]

You didn't understand a word he said, did you?

Yeeaaah, my post had absolutely nothing to do with the multiverse hypothesis. I was merely accusing the theistic explanation of circularity.

Why would a god necessarily want to make humans? Because the god thinks like humans do.
Why must the god think like a human? Because otherwise the god wouldn't have made people.

so he must be stating that one universe with a zillion chances to get it wrong, and one chance to get right; and it just happened that one chance came up which would mean time, space, energy, matter and the 4 forces of nature: strong, electromagnetic, weak, and gravity hit the right combination. okay, go with that then.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Yeeaaah, my post had absolutely nothing to do with the multiverse hypothesis. I was merely accusing the theistic explanation of circularity.

Why would a god necessarily want to make humans? Because the god thinks like humans do.
Why must the god think like a human? Because otherwise the god wouldn't have made people.

so he must be stating that one universe with a zillion chances to get it wrong, and one chance to get right; and it just happened that one chance came up which would mean time, space, energy, matter and the 4 forces of nature: strong, electromagnetic, weak, and gravity hit the right combination. okay, go with that then.

4 forces of nature? Are we talking elemental?

What the hell?

Strong, weak, elementary, gravity?

Are you drunk?

[Coffee Jesus]

so he must be stating that one universe with a zillion chances to get it wrong, and one chance to get right; and it just happened that one chance came up which would mean time, space, energy, matter and the 4 forces of nature: strong, electromagnetic, weak, and gravity hit the right combination. okay, go with that then.

It just so happens that I'm tired of this conversation.

That's not actually an explanation, is it.

I'm tired of this conversation because Ares introduced impatience.

[snowtracks]

[Esquilax]

So you don't want to talk about the multiverse theory because it is speculative and unscientific, but, you'll talk about how and when to pray in order to enter the kingdom of heaven?

That's why I say snowtracks is being a bit disingenious in his analysis.

"you'll talk about how and when to pray in order to enter the kingdom of heaven?" wasn't me that posted that.

And yet you'll conveniently skip over my post, which does have an example of something you said transposed into the same argument?

Could it be that you don't actually have an answer to this blatant hypocrisy on your part?