Question for Christian Ballbags here

[themonkeyman]

Do you really think your ignorant attitude will make me want to love your God when I know that most Christians are like you.

Do you really think your thread title will make me want to leave my God when I know that most atheists are like you?

Your Job is to bring people to Jesus. I did not ask you to leave your God I am asking you to make me a Christian!

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Here is one for the Religious Fanatics Here on this Forum.

1) You say that God exists. Can I ask then why there has been not a single Prophesy / Miracle or major enlightenment of people by this said God since he stopped writing documents and texts 2000 years ago.

The Lord is playing hide and seek with us, just like He did in the Wholly Babble's account of Creation (Genesis chapter 3:8-9).

After you die, He'll shout "surprise" and boy won't you atheists feel silly, right before He tosses you screaming into the pits of Hell, praise the sweet name of Jesus. Now, in case you think I'm just joking, read your Holey Babble and what it has to say about those who are not the Elect. He often "hardens the hearts" of and "sends strong delusions" to those He's targeted for His wrath. Even Jesus Himself says He doesn't want everyone saved:

Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

So it seems you've been destined to be His "object of wrath" on Judgment Day to satisfy His sadistic glee. Better you than me, I say.

2) Can I ask why you are basing your faith on a document that was written by people who had a very limited Grasp of Knowledge. Think a toddler trying to explain the Bible.

Jesus Himself said that to get to Heaven, we must have the minds of little children.

Mark 10:15 Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven

3) You say that all non-Christians goto hell. If does this not indicate a failure in Gods 'All Saving' grace in that God still could not save people who did not believe in him

Who said the Lord was "all saving"? Probably some dumb ass phony Christian who wouldn't know a Bible verse if Jesus Himself wrote it on a sticky note and slapped it on their foreheads.

3a) based on the above question can we sufficiently say that God would rather people Burn for Eternity just because they asked for evidence to believe in him. Also if Jesus had to take our sins upon him why was it conditional on belief. Why could he not have accepted all sins.

No, the Lord would rather burn people for all eternity because they are "objects of wrath". Now it's not my place to question how the Lord gets his kicks but clearly when you read the Babble, you read about a god who has some anger management issues. Thank you, oh Lord, for taking it out on them and not me!

3b) Jesus mentioned a Sin that he cannot forgive - This again proves that Jesus cannot forgive anything and it also causes a paradox in that Jesus who said that whoever believes in him will goto heaven. According to this same person if you commit this sin - despite believing in him you wont goto heaven so Jesus was a Liar!.

In all seriousness, The Holy Spirit is supposed to represent the part of God within. You only get that when you "receive Jesus into your heart". If you reject The Holy Spirit, you are rejecting the entire process of salvation and so it becomes the one sin that can't be forgiven.

So you should never say, "I deny The Holy Spirit" or even write "I deny The Holy Spirit". ...uh oh!

4) With regards to the Fundie Christians Here, Do you really think your ignorant attitude will make me want to love your God when I know that most Christians are like you. I am sorry but your nature shows you dont want to save anyone, It appears more like you want to hurt people.

We like feeling superior to others and this religion offers a cheap and easy way to do it.

5) WHY DID GOD CREATE EVIL?

So He could get his kicks by torturing the unsaved trash.

5a) WHY DID GOD CREATE HUMANS THAT ARE NATURALLY ATTRACTED TO EVIL?

See above. I mean, do you really think the Lord didn't expect Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge? It's like leaving a loaded gun in the living room, telling the kids not to play with it while you're gone and then walking out of the room.

5b) WHY DID GOD CONDEMN HUMANS FOR THEIR OWN DESIGNED NATURE?

Again, read your Babble. Not everyone is supposed to be saved. Only a few select are. Everyone else gets tossed into Hell for Yahweh's enjoyment.

1) The Lord is playing hide and seek with us. He seams to have some fun fucking with peoples heads about his existance. God also said that not-everyone would get to heaven even if they thought they were a Fundamentalist Christian.

2) Exactly alot of Christians do make 'Shit' into 'Flowers' lol.

3) Yeah 'Objects of Wrath' sounds very fire and brimstoneish lol makes it seam that God just created my existance so he could torture me like Alan from Toy Story lol.

3A) Again it just proves that God is not a loving God if he takes pleasure with Fire. Sounds like an Arsonist to be honest with you. Yeah Praise Jesus that there are Christians here who will get to see the Nice Side of Gods wrath so they can look at their friends from heaven and think 'Boy arent I lucky'. Err wait! they wouldent say that is it implies their only reason for heaven is to escape hell. Down you go lol.

3B) lol

4) Yeah well alot of the people I went to Church with were rich assholes who had their Fast Cars and big houses. I always wondered how it happened, Then I realised its either A) They are fleecing the poor members with these false claims or B) its all about Jobs for the boys. I think its kind of both.

5) I suppose a God that gets pleasure of torting things is definately a God I want to worship. Praise him!

5a) Actually your wrong with the loaded Gun the kids probably would listen the example we are using is more like Hey Kids I am going to leave a bag of sweets here right in the middle of the room. I am also going to send your uncle around who will tell you that I said its ok to eat these sweets. But dont eat them.

5b) Yeah

[Tonus]

Your Job is to bring people to Jesus. I did not ask you to leave your God I am asking you to make me a Christian!

By inferring that he is a "ballbag"?

[themonkeyman]

Your Job is to bring people to Jesus. I did not ask you to leave your God I am asking you to make me a Christian!

By inferring that he is a "ballbag"?

I never inferred it - Oddly enough the fact that question was entertained by Christians would indicate the fact that they understand the title.

I do not call any person a BallBag just the Christian Subtype.

E.g. Drich is a nice person but Christianity makes him extremely annoying.

[Minimalist]

2) Can I ask why you are basing your faith on a document that was written by people who had a very limited Grasp of Knowledge.

Because, as Drippy amply demonstrated above, believers have an equally limited "Grasp of Knowledge."

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

Here is one for the Religious Fanatics Here on this Forum.

1) You say that God exists. Can I ask then why there has been not a single Prophesy / Miracle or major enlightenment of people by this said God since he stopped writing documents and texts 2000 years ago.

2) Can I ask why you are basing your faith on a document that was written by people who had a very limited Grasp of Knowledge. Think a toddler trying to explain the Bible.

3) You say that all non-Christians goto hell. If does this not indicate a failure in Gods 'All Saving' grace in that God still could not save people who did not believe in him

3a) based on the above question can we sufficiently say that God would rather people Burn for Eternity just because they asked for evidence to believe in him. Also if Jesus had to take our sins upon him why was it conditional on belief. Why could he not have accepted all sins.

3b) Jesus mentioned a Sin that he cannot forgive - This again proves that Jesus cannot forgive anything and it also causes a paradox in that Jesus who said that whoever believes in him will goto heaven. According to this same person if you commit this sin - despite believing in him you wont goto heaven so Jesus was a Liar!.

4) With regards to the Fundie Christians Here, Do you really think your ignorant attitude will make me want to love your God when I know that most Christians are like you. I am sorry but your nature shows you dont want to save anyone, It appears more like you want to hurt people.

5) WHY DID GOD CREATE EVIL?

5a) WHY DID GOD CREATE HUMANS THAT ARE NATURALLY ATTRACTED TO EVIL?

5b) WHY DID GOD CONDEMN HUMANS FOR THEIR OWN DESIGNED NATURE?

1. God not only predicted the present modern world but God gave the approximate time when it would occur.

That is a great proof of the Holy Bible.

God nailed it from about 2000 and more years ago.

2. In al honesty, Adam was was smarter than any one living today.

3. God made it apparent that He exists and if you seek Him you will find Him. Those that choose to reject God would not be happy to be worshipping Jesus Christ for eternity. It would be worse than hell fro them. So He gave them what they want: to be separated from God for ever.

The sin Jesus Christ sannot forgive is unbelief in the gospel of salvation.

4. I am the only one who knows real science. You are blinded by a false assumption. 2 Thessalonians explains that.

5. God just created free will beings. But God only allows evil for about 7000 years out of eternity. So God trumps over evil.

God provides the easiest way to be saved from our sins. Just believe the gospel of Jesus Christ.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Esquilax, Rich is not displaying ego so much as expressing his dismay. I often feel the same way. Both of us have been called liars and worse. But we are big boys and can handle it. There's plenty of reflexive dismissals to go around.

[Tonus]

2. In al honesty, Adam was was smarter than any one living today.

I'm more concerned with his lack of willpower.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I think Grace really is off the scale when it comes to nuttyness.

[Esquilax]

Esquilax, Rich is not displaying ego so much as expressing his dismay. I often feel the same way. Both of us have been called liars and worse. But we are big boys and can handle it. There's plenty of reflexive dismissals to go around.

Which I would accept, if that wasn't his only note whenever someone disagrees.

I guess what frustrates me about it is that it totally stifles any kind of continuing discourse; he presents his point, someone disagrees, and instead of providing additional information or a refutation, he races to condemn the person doing the disagreeing... and then that's the end. There's no way to debate a person whose sole response is not to defend his argument, but to attack anyone who disagrees. That's also why it feels like ego; at a certain point it stops seeming like a point he's making and starts feeling like a defense mechanism from a person who can't imagine his ideas not being totally convincing.

[freedomfromforum]

Matthew 18:3

And he (Jesus™) said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

And then there's this...

1 Corinthians 13:11

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.

So basically Paul shits on Jesus'™ advice. Dumb cunt christians - GROW UP!