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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
October 15, 2013 at 9:10 am
Well, no one ever claimed Oprah was smart, and money clearly can't by brains. She is, after all, responsible for unleashing Dr. Phil upon society. You have to be pretty fucking stupid to be so reckless.
I do always get a chuckle when believers start spouting out the mouth about what an atheist can and can't be, as if believing in god somehow makes them an expert.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
October 15, 2013 at 2:52 pm
(October 15, 2013 at 9:10 am)Faith No More Wrote: Well, no one ever claimed Oprah was smart, and money clearly can't by brains. She is, after all, responsible for unleashing Dr. Phil upon society. You have to be pretty fucking stupid to be so reckless.
I do always get a chuckle when believers start spouting out the mouth about what an atheist can and can't be, as if believing in god somehow makes them an expert.
You have a point there. Phil is a fraud.
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
October 15, 2013 at 3:04 pm
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2013 at 3:05 pm by Tonus.)
That sounds like the argument from design. The universe seems so awesome and cool that it must have been made by god. I'll bet she'd be awed by the bright colors and patterns of Phyllobates bicolor if she saw one. She might be somewhat less awestruck if she touched it, though. God sure can be a sneaky bastard.
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
October 15, 2013 at 3:06 pm
The popularity of that phoney-ass bitch, and for that matter that Golem she unleashed upon the unsuspecting public (Dr. Phil) just goes to show us the sheer
fucking stupidity of the American public. It's kinda scary that these legions of mindless groundlings just swallow her utterances as if they were 24K nuggets of timeless wisdom. But why am I surprised? These same fools think Ronald Reagan was "the great communicator".
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
October 15, 2013 at 3:19 pm
I don't like Oprah, for someone that influential, she sure doesn't give a shit about responsibility. The fact that she endorses Dr Oz makes her a terrible person in my eyes.
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
October 15, 2013 at 3:21 pm
I don't think she is a phoney. I think she sells crap to make a living. But I don't think she is a phoney in the sense that she has a better moral compass for the less fortunate as compared to the Koch bastards.
She doesn't support gay marriage because it gets her ratings. She didn't support Obama to get ratings. I think she has a much better understanding of where she came from in escaping poverty and the plight of minorities as compared to Papa Johns.
Having an atheist on does get ratings, but I don't think it is beyond her to think "people used to do the same thing to blacks".
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
October 15, 2013 at 3:30 pm
(October 15, 2013 at 9:03 am)Tiberius Wrote: Unrelated to the actual thread, but to the article linked in the OP:
Quote:Diana Nyad is a truly remarkable woman. She made four unsuccessful attempts to swim from Cuba to Florida, but persevered and actually accomplished her goal on the fifth try.
This opening paragraph of the article in question I think completely undersells the accomplishment of Diana Nyad. She didn't just swim from Cuba to Florida. She did so, unaided, at the age of 64. Now that is truly remarkable.
I'm sure that at some level Oprah thinks she couldn't have made it without a little help from her sky-daddy. I guess the first four times he tried to drown her and then decided oh, what-the-fuck!
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Oprah tells atheist swimmer Diana Nyad that atheists don't believe in 'awe' and 'wond
October 15, 2013 at 5:09 pm
You can find the article online. She says “Well, I don’t call you an atheist then,” Winfrey replied. “I think if you believe in the awe and the wonder and the mystery that that is what God is. That is what God is. It’s not a bearded guy in the sky.”
anyone care to respond?
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RE: Oprah tells atheist swimmer Diana Nyad that atheists don't believe in 'awe' and 'wond
October 15, 2013 at 5:11 pm
No....
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RE: Oprah tells atheist swimmer Diana Nyad that atheists don't believe in 'awe' and 'wond
October 15, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.
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