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Oprah speaks for atheists?
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
(October 16, 2013 at 3:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(October 16, 2013 at 2:44 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: My wife is an atheist but a fan of Dr. Phil. Can anyone fill me in on why he's a fraud?

Here's one juicy tidbit that has fraud all over it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_McGraw Wrote:In 2003, McGraw entered the weight-loss business, selling shakes, energy bars, and supplements. These products were promoted on his show with his sisters Deana and Brenda and nephew Tony among the featured testimonials on the show.[24] These products' labels, which carried the brand name "Shape It Up, Woo, Woo!, stated: "These products contain scientifically researched levels of ingredients that can help you change your behavior to take control of your weight." This met with swift criticism from various sources,[3] accusing McGraw (a clinical psychologist, and not a physician) of lacking the expertise to recommend weight-loss products. Facing a Federal Trade Commission investigation into Shape Up's claims, McGraw pulled his supplements off the market in March 2004, and the FTC dropped its probe. In October 2005, several people who used McGraw's products declared an intent to file a class-action lawsuit against him, claiming that although the supplements cost $120 per month they did not stimulate weight loss.[25][dead link] McGraw settled the suit in September 2006 for $10.5 million.[26] Some of the settlement ($6 million) may be paid to the plaintiffs in the form of Amway (Quixtar) brand Nutrilite vitamins.[27][dead link]

I bolded the salient clue.
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#42
RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
(October 16, 2013 at 2:44 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: My wife is an atheist but a fan of Dr. Phil. Can anyone fill me in on why he's a fraud?

My objection to him isn't so much that he's a fraud, although CD just posted some interesting info that I wasn't aware of. My objection is that he boils down complex issues into simple little phrases and spews them as if they're wisdom, but in the end, they don't really contain anything of substance. Also, he takes people on his show and berates them in a sanctimonious manner for television ratings, something a psychologist with an ounce of respect for his field would never dream of doing. He is to psychology as Sarah Palin is to politics, only Dr. Phil doesn't have the excuse that he's delusional.
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
(October 16, 2013 at 1:03 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So rich people are not entitled to the same human emotions as the poor?

If Zuckerburg went to buy those houses around him wearing an atheist shirt or hat, would that give the right of the real estate agent to say "fuck you atheist"

I don't think Oprah lives in the same economic bubble as tea party. Certainly Nick Hanour does not. And the owners of Moo Cluck Moo do not.

You can find plenty of things to attack Oprah about, but this is not one of them.
Yes, it is. She proceeded to bitch about clerk being racist just because she didn't show her the purse as if only white people were allowed to see it.
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
(October 16, 2013 at 6:08 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:
(October 16, 2013 at 2:44 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: My wife is an atheist but a fan of Dr. Phil. Can anyone fill me in on why he's a fraud?
I'm not sure if popular vote counts, but I did just see his latest hard cover release at the dollar store.

She's really after me to finish reading that book (she got it for me for my kindle), convinced that I'll find it helpful. I've read a few chapters and frankly don't find it all that insightful. I guess it just goes to show you that just because you're an atheist doesn't mean you're rational about everything.
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