Very creative, and nice, I like it.
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What if you were god?
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: What if you were god?
October 31, 2009 at 4:03 pm
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2009 at 4:04 pm by fr0d0.)
Nice one Adrian.
What if 'making commandments' was working it out for themselves? How could they not commit 'sin'? Are you saying that nothing is bad or are you saying that these are perfect beings unable to commit sin? What about problems you couldn't resolve? And how would you be everywhere at once and also a temporal God? You wouldn't have an afterlife but then you call an afterlife re-incarnation? Do people get to repeatedly live their lives to fix these mistakes that you see? So the only point to life to you... the 'why' question, is to live a life of no regrets. Interesting. Quite hedonistic don't you think?  (October 31, 2009 at 4:03 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: What if 'making commandments' was working it out for themselves?Then they'd make commandments for themselves, just like a modern society does. However the difference would be that I hadn't given them these commandments as some kind of divine law, and they are of ultimately no importance other than holding society together. Quote:How could they not commit 'sin'? Are you saying that nothing is bad or are you saying that these are perfect beings unable to commit sin?I guess it's almost both. They are incapable of committing sin, since sin is defined as whatever I wanted, and since I wouldn't define sin as anything, they can't commit it  Quote:What about problems you couldn't resolve? And how would you be everywhere at once and also a temporal God?I would be able to solve any problem, but I'd encourage people to find the answers themselves if they could. As for the other question, I told you I'd live in a non-temporal house such that I could talk to everyone at once in it  . Anyway, even if I didn't, you are assuming my universe would operate in a similar way to this one!Quote:You wouldn't have an afterlife but then you call an afterlife re-incarnation? Do people get to repeatedly live their lives to fix these mistakes that you see? So the only point to life to you... the 'why' question, is to live a life of no regrets. Interesting. Quite hedonistic don't you think?I never said they got to fix the mistakes I saw, but the mistakes that they saw. For instance, I'd rather like to repeat the years of my life from 11-18 again, I made plenty of mistakes I regret during those years. I wouldn't be a God who told people that they had to relive parts of their life. If they didn't have any regrets, or had them but didn't want to relive their life, I'd grant them the gift of non-existence. 
That would be a wonderful gift... to die with no regrets. Pity most of us don't get that
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
And how do you know that God gave us these laws and that divine inspiration doesn't actually mean 'perfect answer'?
Your subjects define sin, you don't. What are you going to do? Limit their freedom? Defining your own temporal/non temporal physical reality is just cheating
 (October 31, 2009 at 11:17 pm)Saerules Wrote: That would be a wonderful gift... to die with no regrets. Pity most of us don't get that I have no regrets, and I intend it stays that way  I used to be full of them lol. Lots of little things all the time. (November 1, 2009 at 12:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Defining your own temporal/non temporal physical reality is just cheating God does cheat... yes? I swear before when we were discussing the whole thing about God being a trinity and just one thing simultaneously... that you said something like "What makes you think God would have to obey the natural laws of the universe?" - I swear you said something about him being able to transcend logic? EvF
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Haha! Nice try Evie!
God doesn't ever transcend demonstrably in the impossible way Adrian suggests would be perfectly fine in his universe. But then I may let him off because if that were just 'the way it is' then it would be inside the physical laws. As impossible as that may be and just plain silly in reality 
So God is not both three things and one thing then, because he can't contradict logic? Because before you seemed to say the opposite!
Oops then, sorry, I was just going by something you said before. EvF |
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