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Fuck Churches
#51
RE: Fuck Churches
I am a preachers kid, I was heavily involved in the Methodist church years and once I got older understood the financial situations that some smaller church do face. With that said, I will sum up what I heard ONE pastor state while they were discussing taxes and accounting management and I quote “Naw this stuff is not too bad, I used to run a business and this is really no different from what I already know and done.” How in the world can you be “humanitarian” if you run the whole damn thing like a business? Business are in it for making money. I have further evidence of this. My father who faithfully served 20 years as a remarkable pastor was screw out of his retirement why? Because he served in New Mexico before I was born and suffered a heart attack. Because of his lack of experience he did not have the best health insurance, and suffered bankruptcy. Because of that moment he had to go to doctors to “prove” he was physically able to serve. After receiving the green light by 3 doctors the New Mexican conference still denied him anything. Fast forward year later, my dad now serves under the Louisiana Conference. Officially he is still part of the New Mexican conference, he cannot become a full fledge member of the Louisiana conference. That barred him from his full retirement benefits, and now life insurance. They found a loop after 20 years to not pay him his life insurance. Now crippled with health debt, if anything happens my mother or if both die myself will receive nothing and maybe inherit a ton of debt. By the way one of the “small” churches my dad served had over 1 million in savings.

I can continue, when I was with a bible college was HAD to attend their church. Outside the church was a Lamborghini, we were all commenting on that nice 150k-500k car. Later that service they had an altar call for people in financial need. I have given up because after years and years of prayer my family was never given comfort they deserve. I saw atleast 10 people walk up to that altar…..and I asked most of them of their situation and seen them up there multiple times. I did not see a damn millionaire sign a check that could change a person’s life around. I guess 20k is just too much for someone right? I myself have experienced a lot of pain from the church. I was in need of a car when I was 19-20. I had no money and parents were poor. Not one church would offer up a car for me. And expense I am sure would have been nothing. All I got was “we’ll pray for you.” What good was that? I been praying. I am sure there are decent churches, but as far as I am concerned they are just tax havens.
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#52
RE: Fuck Churches
(October 25, 2013 at 4:45 am)Aractus Wrote:
(October 24, 2013 at 12:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Churches do "charity" as a marketing ploy: A spoonful of soup and a spoonful of jesus. Fuck 'em.
Get it through your thick head already. Charity is never offered with "strings attached". People approach our church office off the streets, with needs which my particular church "can not" meet, oh and also with needs which we can meet.

There are times when your naivete is so charming!
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#53
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#54
RE: Fuck Churches
(October 25, 2013 at 11:17 am)DLJ Wrote:
(October 25, 2013 at 12:09 am)Godschild Wrote: ...
Most people would be astounded at the amount of money it takes to keep the doors of a small church open.
...

Thinking

I have a solution ...

... but I don't think you're going to like it.

Big Grin

We do not give up, God will provide, I know you don't like that.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#55
RE: Fuck Churches
(October 25, 2013 at 3:48 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(October 25, 2013 at 11:17 am)DLJ Wrote: Thinking

I have a solution ...

... but I don't think you're going to like it.

Big Grin

We do not give up, God will provide, I know you don't like that.

GC

Oh, so wrong. I love that.

I really do wish that churches stopped being hypocritical and really did trust their gods to provide.

... rather than dodgy accounting practices, tax loop-holes and fund-raising scams.

Tongue
The PURPOSE of life is to replicate our DNA ................. (from Darwin)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)
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#57
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(October 25, 2013 at 12:16 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: With that said, I will sum up what I heard ONE pastor state while they were discussing taxes and accounting management and I quote “Naw this stuff is not too bad, I used to run a business and this is really no different from what I already know and done.” How in the world can you be “humanitarian” if you run the whole damn thing like a business? Business are in it for making money.
Well I can assure you that of the churches I know, the priest/pastor is paid a salary, and can not receive a penny more for himself from the church's funding. The funds are used for general duties - eg the salaries of office workers, or for community programs, and this is decided by a parish council, and the PC is elected from ordinary members of the church by said members. So don't go pretending that the money all goes to the priest, because it doesn't.
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