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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 9:55 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 9:52 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: I love all the Mods. They are all really really great.
Love? I wouldnt go that far. Smart, humorous and friendly. With one exception.
(October 26, 2013 at 9:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Let me put it this way. I have had various people on ignore in my time here, but there is only one member in particular that I dislike with venom. Since my modification, I can of course no longer keep this person on ignore. My solution is never to read or engage with any post that member makes, except in any official capacity.
I guess I will have to try that aswell.
And who is the venomous person?
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 9:58 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 8:18 pm)Tiberius Wrote: It allows us to contact everyone on the forums. It also means a person can't just ignore staff. Call me crazy, but I think it's a little ridiculous to want to be part of a community but also ignore those that lead the community. I'm going to have to agree with Germans on this one, and I believe that it is a rule that should be discussed.
Generally speaking I don't use ignore lists, however those that do should be allowed to ignore mods, if those mods are participating in the discussions with members.
It shouldn't interfere with your ability to moderate because: a. you can still edit the posts of the person, b. before contacting people by PM it's my understanding that you would ordinarily consult with other mods anyway - meaning any one of them could PM instead, and c. importantly it lets you know that the person on the ignore list probably shouldn't be the mod to send a PM to someone. Finally d. if there is such an important matter that requires that the mod on the ignore list must personally PM someone, surely they could just modify their profile to un-ignore themself before sending the PM?
Quote:Well, seeing as you have an inability to simply not respond to my posts, you're a bit screwed there.
With all due respect, if he doesn't want to see you pushing his buttons, surely he should be allowed to utilize the ignore function? I haven't seen you give a convincing argument as to why having you, or another mod, on an ignore list would create a larger problem than the one that it might solve?
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Quote:I haven't seen you give a convincing argument as to why having you, or another mod, on an ignore list would create a larger problem than the one that it might solve?
He who does all the work gets to make the rules.
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Yeah, but it means that once people become mod's, anyone who already had them on the ignore list now has to take them off, for instance. I just don't see how the rule solves more problems than it makes, IMHO.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 10:19 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 9:55 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: I guess I will have to try that aswell.
Works for me.
(October 26, 2013 at 9:55 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: And who is the venomous person?
It wouldn't be politic to name and shame in open forum. I'm not about to stoop to that person's level, but be assured it's nobody in present company.
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 10:23 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 10:05 pm)Aractus Wrote: Yeah, but it means that once people become mod's, anyone who already had them on the ignore list now has to take them off, for instance. I just don't see how the rule solves more problems than it makes, IMHO.
You might be unaware that mods cannot view other user's ignore lists. Given how heavily we use PMs to do our jobs, not being able to contact a member by PM is very problematic.
With no disrespect intended, if you haven't been on the operational side of the forum, you're really not in a position to judge what would or would not create more problems.
We can't put any of the general membership on ignore either - for the same reason: it interferes with moderation and administration of the forum. That in my opinion trumps a member's inability to scroll past what they do not wish to read or respond to.
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 10:28 pm
There are a few people on here I really do not like, but I think the only one on my ignore list is Vinny, and I don't even remember why.
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 11:31 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 10:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You might be unaware that mods cannot view other user's ignore lists. Fair enough then, obviously you'd need to be able to see the ignore lists if member's were allowed to ignore mods.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 11:35 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 10:05 pm)Aractus Wrote: Yeah, but it means that once people become mod's, anyone who already had them on the ignore list now has to take them off, for instance. I just don't see how the rule solves more problems than it makes, IMHO.
Yes. That is what it means. But it would seem that the people who do the work do not share your opinion.
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RE: Why is having a mod on the ignore list against rules?
October 26, 2013 at 11:40 pm
For the record....
The only people I put on ignore are those that have a propensity for religious pontification. Usually they end up getting themselves banned anyway. 
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