Is killing a witch always a bad thing?

[Mister Agenda]

Scary factoid: More Millenials believe in demonic possession (63%) than previous American generations.

[Doubting Thomas]

Heck, for the most part, even SATANISTS don't worship Satan. So many Satanists regard Satan as a metaphor that it pays to disinguish them from devil-worshippers. And among the devil-worshippers, if you take out the ones who think Satan repented or was misrepresented, that doesn't leave many people who worship Satan as a god of evil.

And of those, probably 99% of them are disenfranchised kids or young adults who play at devil worship because they think it's "cool." At least that's the way it was during the Satanic Panic of the 1980's.

[Mister Agenda]

Where would Satan be without Heavy Metal?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

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During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after eight hundred years, gathered up its halters, thumb-screws, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood.
Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry.....There are no witches. The witch text remains; only the practice has changed. Hell fire is gone, but the text remains. Infant damnation is gone, but the text remains. More than two hundred death penalties are gone from the law books, but the texts that authorized them remain. - Mark Twain

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Boru

[Bucky Ball]

Said the man who doesn't know the difference between "you're" and "your".

Those who can, do. Those who can't argue. those who can't even argue grade papers, and correct spelling... So how is that working out for ya? To know that the guy who does not know witch "your" to use, still kicked in your fake doctorate teeth on your last arguement?

Maybe you should just start over with a new screen name or something. I don't ever check, so if you swap I won't know unless you say something.. Just a word of advise next time don't pretend to be something you are not.

Also know that As long as you use this name I will vow to remind you of your failed attempt to lie to me about your education, until you admit it, and appologise.

It's word of "advice", not "advise". "Apologize" has only one "p".
I have not lied about anything. You, on the other hand, have NO education, and therefore all you BS carries no weight at all.
You "kicked" nothing. You continue with every post, to demonstrate your complete lack of education, junior. (BTW, you totally missed the point about your "capricious" deity, and you failed to tell us what exactly the process of choice was.) You also missed the point about the language, wheich everyone who read you idiot post noted.

[Zazzy]

Those who can, do. Those who can't argue. those who can't even argue grade papers, and correct spelling... So how is that working out for ya? To know that the guy who does not know witch "your" to use, still kicked in your fake doctorate teeth on your last arguement?

Maybe you should just start over with a new screen name or something. I don't ever check, so if you swap I won't know unless you say something.. Just a word of advise next time don't pretend to be something you are not.

Also know that As long as you use this name I will vow to remind you of your failed attempt to lie to me about your education, until you admit it, and appologise.

It's word of "advice", not "advise". "Apologize" has only one "p".
I have not lied about anything. You, on the other hand, have NO education, and therefore all you BS carries no weight at all.
You "kicked" nothing. You continue with every post, to demonstrate your complete lack of education, junior. (BTW, you totally missed the point about your "capricious" deity, and you failed to tell us what exactly the process of choice was.) You also missed the point about the language, wheich everyone who read you idiot post noted.

Drich likes to accuse people of lying about their jobs and educations. It's a tactic to avoid them. It's also really rude, and an ongoing habit, since he did it with me, too. Perhaps we should report him for it.

[Mystical]

LoL poor Zazzy, what on earth could you have done to deserve such slanderous accusations?! You're a parrot fgs. A Parrot. Everyone
knows parrots have Doctorates, it's a well known fact!

Oh and Bucky Ball, if you decide to keep hassling him on his grammar it's going to be a long, arduous task. I don't see many posts of
his without spelling issues. If I recall though, he says he has a reading or writing handicap. I don't make fun of those with handicaps..

But I did ask him for evidence that he once had aids and now has not! That went over like a lead brick. So, it's kind of funny that a man with no credibility himself is still hassling newbies over their own credibility.

[Zazzy]

LoL poor Zazzy, what on earth could you have done to deserve such slanderous accusations?! You're a parrot fgs. A Parrot. Everyone
knows parrots have Doctorates, it's a well known fact!

*fluffs feathers angrily*

I'm not just a parrot; I'm a COCKATOO, lady. We're the velcro parrots with the funny hats, and DAMNED STRAIGHT we all have doctorates.

Except I won't have mine til spring.

[Mystical]

Don't you rustle those feathers at me, Mister.

Does Polly want a crack-- oops sorry

[Drich]

I will concede there is a debate, but it only seem to be a debate among those who want to seperate and give Wicca a legitimacy, from witchcraft. Just because there is a popular movement to deny the orgins of 'Wicca' does not mean the the "art of witch craft" somehow 'magically' stops fitting the dictionary definition of a religion.
(If you click on the right link it will provide you with the actual definition of the word.)

You have based your argument on 'feeling' and not fact. All three sources identify witchcraft as a religion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca

http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm

http://www.realmagick.com/witchcraft-religion/

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Those sources are wrong. There is magic and there is religion. Witchcraft is magic. Wicca is religion. Just as voodoo is a religion but hoodoo is magic. It should also be pointed out that Christians also sometimes dabble in magic.

Did you even read the references i left?

witchcraft is a religion because it Literally fits the defination. The 'magic' aspect is the desired purpose for adhearing to certain practices, cermonies, and potions. But even if 'no magic' happens the adheareance to practices cermonies and potions unique to witchcraft is still considered practicing witchcraft.

You can "Nut-uh" all you want, and tell me all about how that not what you believe based on popular thought, but untill you put some research behind your words, your thoughts will be dismissed outright as personal feeling.

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One of the problems with the OP is that witchcraft covers a very wide range. There are examples of malicious witchcraft in Africa and other places alongside malicious examples of Christian paranoia over witchcraft (see Stimbo's link).

I am not sure this can be equated to the situation in Europe over a 500 year period when an unknown number of women were burnt (possibly 100,000 plus) for being witches. It appears that their major crime was being independent women, or old women living on their own, or ugly women again on their own or living with other women (thereby being classified as a coven).

Whatever horrors one might suppose witches have done over history it appears this diminishes into nothing compared to the crimes against women, by Christianity, under the excuse of witchcraft.

From the little I know of Wiccans they seem to bear very little resemblance to any of the above - being worshippers of nature more than anything else. Further, I have never heard of a case of Wiccans harming anyone (not that this means the odd case may have come up but but as an example of causality it would be massively rarer than Christianity or Islam, for example).

That's one of the points I am making here. If the actions of a practicing witch can be justified in her/his death under our laws of self defense, how much more free would those laws be 300 years ago?

The fact that the death of a practicing witch is off the table means that the death of a witch 300 years ago would mean there is a prejudice against the culture then or in the religion they used to combat witchcraft.. Remember the end result is the same just the justification leading up to that end result differs. Which makes your personal 'righteousness'/justifications (Self righteousness) somehow better than someone who lived 300 years ago.

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Yes. It is always wrong to kill a witch. It is always wrong to kill a Catholic. It is always wrong to kill a Muslim. It is always wrong to kill a Baptist. It is always wrong to kill a Jew.

But if, in the practice of their religion, witches (or anyone else) destroys property or harms or endangers people, it is NOT wrong to fine or imprison them.

But Drich, how many of the men and women who over the centuries have been burned, hanged, drowned, impaled or pressed to death, were people who had actual compacts with Satan and were working evil in the world? Quick answer: None. Long answer: None at all.

Boru

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Those who can, do. Those who can't argue. those who can't even argue grade papers, and correct spelling... So how is that working out for ya? To know that the guy who does not know witch "your" to use, still kicked in your fake doctorate teeth on your last arguement?

Maybe you should just start over with a new screen name or something. I don't ever check, so if you swap I won't know unless you say something.. Just a word of advise next time don't pretend to be something you are not.

Also know that As long as you use this name I will vow to remind you of your failed attempt to lie to me about your education, until you admit it, and appologise.

It's word of "advice", not "advise". "Apologize" has only one "p".
I have not lied about anything. You, on the other hand, have NO education, and therefore all you BS carries no weight at all.
You "kicked" nothing. You continue with every post, to demonstrate your complete lack of education, junior. (BTW, you totally missed the point about your "capricious" deity, and you failed to tell us what exactly the process of choice was.) You also missed the point about the language, wheich everyone who read you idiot post noted.

Den if me so stupid, why you quit arguement that you say you can win so easy?

why you no answer? why you seem scared to say anything beside mean things to me?

You know this make you look intimidated, broken, a stupid yourseff. Because if stupid man make smart man feel intimidated and broken by what he say, and smart man can not make stupid man stop by what he say, then smart man not seem so smart, do he? Maybe it mean smart man really stoo-ped-er than stupid man huh??

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It's word of "advice", not "advise". "Apologize" has only one "p".
I have not lied about anything. You, on the other hand, have NO education, and therefore all you BS carries no weight at all.
You "kicked" nothing. You continue with every post, to demonstrate your complete lack of education, junior. (BTW, you totally missed the point about your "capricious" deity, and you failed to tell us what exactly the process of choice was.) You also missed the point about the language, wheich everyone who read you idiot post noted.

Drich likes to accuse people of lying about their jobs and educations. It's a tactic to avoid them. It's also really rude, and an ongoing habit, since he did it with me, too. Perhaps we should report him for it.

what did you lie about?