The Universe and Big Bang

[LastPoet]

If I die where does my soul go? How does my soul exist if nothing made it before I was born? At what point in my existence was I given a soul? You say something needs to create it so did God create it? That would mean I am Jesus would it not?

In order to ensure your 'soul' salvation you must send money to me at [email protected]

It is just as credible.

[themonkeyman]

@super spidey man

If we could conclude for a minute God exists what then gives you evidence then to prove that its your specific God?
Based upon modern science why have we not seen a real discernible Miracle? You can say that it happened 2,000 years ago but peoples understand was not what it has been in these last 150 or so years.

E.g. How the fuck can both a Sorcerer and Aron both turn Sticks to Snakes? I haven't even seen a witch do that now a day? That's one I've always wondered.

Or how about 'The dead shall be raised from their graves' How do we know that this was not the same dead that was spoken about when Jesus died who rose. Also why would something as weird as that be completely ignored in the bible and in modern history?

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If I die where does my soul go? How does my soul exist if nothing made it before I was born? At what point in my existence was I given a soul? You say something needs to create it so did God create it? That would mean I am Jesus would it not?

In order to ensure your 'soul' salvation you must send money to me at [email protected]

It is just as credible.

But that's my point. Explain the soul when we cannot measure it by any scientific means? Then explain to me that it exists in the first place!

Jesus said the 'Holy Spirit' dwells within people - Again is it possible to measure this? Because how then would you know you have it unless its all chemical based in your head?

[super spidey man]

Actually to base their response on the Idea that 'God Did It' is completely false as they are making an assumption. How do we know we all aren't in someones little Jar in School. Considering Christians believe that 'Stuff' needs to create more 'Stuff' then I propose a question.

If I die where does my soul go? How does my soul exist if nothing made it before I was born? At what point in my existence was I given a soul? You say something needs to create it so did God create it? That would mean I am Jesus would it not?

obviously not. knowing that you did not create your own soul and did not create yourself and was not born of a virgin and living a sinless life.

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@super spidey man

If we could conclude for a minute God exists what then gives you evidence then to prove that its your specific God?
Based upon modern science why have we not seen a real discernible Miracle? You can say that it happened 2,000 years ago but peoples understand was not what it has been in these last 150 or so years.

E.g. How the fuck can both a Sorcerer and Aron both turn Sticks to Snakes? I haven't even seen a witch do that now a day? That's one I've always wondered.

Or how about 'The dead shall be raised from their graves' How do we know that this was not the same dead that was spoken about when Jesus died who rose. Also why would something as weird as that be completely ignored in the bible and in modern history?

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In order to ensure your 'soul' salvation you must send money to me at [email protected]

It is just as credible.

But that's my point. Explain the soul when we cannot measure it by any scientific means? Then explain to me that it exists in the first place!

Jesus said the 'Holy Spirit' dwells within people - Again is it possible to measure this? Because how then would you know you have it unless its all chemical based in your head?

yes because now you are arguing that there is no god, why argue, why do you care, why do you want to know, and try to disprove it, whats the big deal. What made your brain? what made everything there is a beginning somewhere.

[LastPoet]

But that's my point. Explain the soul when we cannot measure it by any scientific means? Then explain to me that it exists in the first place!

Jesus said the 'Holy Spirit' dwells within people - Again is it possible to measure this? Because how then would you know you have it unless its all chemical based in your head?

You silly monkey, you have to believe, without reason. Now, send money to my religion.

I was commenting with my dad today: there is this neighbourhood here that all the businesses closed, due to the economy crisis. The only one still up is a christian church. I am just envious that I cannot think of a better scam to get money. You know... God needs to play the bills too

[Silver]

what made everything there is a beginning somewhere.

Your problem is that you are jumping to the god conclusion because you do not have the answers readily available that appease you. God is a delusion based on no verifiable evidence despite the comfortable feelings the concept creates within you.

[themonkeyman]

what made everything there is a beginning somewhere.

Your problem is that you are jumping to the god conclusion because you do not have the answers readily available that appease you. God is a delusion based on no verifiable evidence despite the comfortable feelings the concept creates within you.

Hey,

I dont profess to know if God exists but the one that @Spidey is talking about is Yahweh and I can say that I haven't seen evdience of his existance.

See like Dawkins said, We cannot prove a God does not exist however we can prove weather the claims made in the bible are legitimate.

And sadly their not.

[LastPoet]

yes because now you are arguing that there is no god, why argue, why do you care, why do you want to know, and try to disprove it, whats the big deal. What made your brain? what made everything there is a beginning somewhere.

(partial quote, bold mine))

Because of your very christian dogma, you have hurted people, even killed. That is a big deal to me. It is a failed philosophy.

Notice the bolded text. I argue not because I might sway you, but because someone else might find my words usefull. Also, it gives me pleasure in basking in most of theistic nonsence, gives me an air of superiority. So yeah, I'm that futile. Now, would you leave people that do care about reality to their business and take your bullshit elsewhere?

[super spidey man]

Your problem is that you are jumping to the god conclusion because you do not have the answers readily available that appease you. God is a delusion based on no verifiable evidence despite the comfortable feelings the concept creates within you.

Hey,

I dont profess to know if God exists but the one that @Spidey is talking about is Yahweh and I can say that I haven't seen evdience of his existance.

See like Dawkins said, We cannot prove a God does not exist however we can prove weather the claims made in the bible are legitimate.

And sadly their not.

please explain to me what claims in the bible are not legitimate were the bible is where we should be referring and not all of these opinions and thoughts.

[Silver]

please explain to me what claims in the bible are not legitimate were the bible is where we should be referring and not all of these opinions and thoughts.

Considering that the bible is a fictional narrative derived from the opinion of man, it is quite unreliable as a source of historical evidence.

[super spidey man]

yes because now you are arguing that there is no god, why argue, why do you care, why do you want to know, and try to disprove it, whats the big deal. What made your brain? what made everything there is a beginning somewhere.

(partial quote, bold mine))

Because of your very christian dogma, you have hurted people, even killed. That is a big deal to me. It is a failed philosophy.

Notice the bolded text. I argue not because I might sway you, but because someone else might find my words usefull. Also, it gives me pleasure in basking in most of theistic nonsence, gives me an air of superiority. So yeah, I'm that futile. Now, would you leave people that do care about reality to their business and take your bullshit elsewhere?

yes those who dont deserve to call themselves christians do and did not obey what the bible has instructed just because someone who calls themself a christian does not mean all christians pay for a lie. Unless you are referring to deaths in the bible but thats another debate.