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The Universe and Big Bang
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: There is obviously a god.

False.

(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: You at least have to see that there is a god that created everything.

A creation does not imply a creator.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 22, 2013 at 10:37 am)Kitanetos Wrote:
(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: There is obviously a god.

False.

(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: You at least have to see that there is a god that created everything.

A creation does not imply a creator.

than what does
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
So much to reply to and you dodge... sad...sad...

(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: There is obviously a god.
No.. it's not obvious at all... or else, this forum wouldn't exist. The term "atheist" wouldn't exist.

(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: Have you read all those different religions you mentioned.
Don't need to.
None of them has anything substantial to them. Only wishful thinking and mysteries...

(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: Maybe you need to start researching them and see which one makes the most sense. And How the bible and Christianity is totally different.
No, I don't need to research any religion. Nor is yours that much different.

(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: You at least have to see that there is a god that created everything. look around you. This did not happen by itself. something had to start it somewherre.
Really?
Really really?
Why would you think something like that?
Where did you get that idea?
How do you know that?
I look around me... I see star stuff everywhere.
I look up, I see stars everywhere.
Where did those stars come from? They formed out of protons that came into being after the big bang.
(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: going back to the original post about the big bang. doesn't matter if there is a infinity universes which I doubt but something(creator) had to have created it.

Why?
Why do you say that "something had to create the universe"?

I don't know how the big bang came to happen, but I sure as heck am not going to jump the gun and say a super entity did it.
Maybe... maybe this universe was created by some extra-universal creature.
Maybe there are many such creatures, each creating many similar universes.
Maybe...
But I'm not betting on it until I have confirmation.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 22, 2013 at 10:41 am)super spidey man Wrote: than what does

Verifiable evidence of the creator's existence.

What verifiable proof we do have lends credence to the fact that man created god. Nothing more.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)super spidey man Wrote: There is obviously a god.

Then it ought to be trivial for you to show us some evidence for it.

Somebody posted this on my FB wall a while back. I can't recall the exact words and I'm far too lazy to dig them up, but it went something along the lines of:

"If all of human society were wiped clean tomorrow and our species had to start over from the very beginning, many of our discoveries - fire, the wheel, steam power, electricity, evolution, medicines, the Big Bang etc etc - would eventually be rediscovered simply by looking at the world. All of the gods ever worshipped, however, would be gone forever."

In other words, nothing of any gods (including yours) can be discerned from anything in nature, and can only be found within the pages of 'holy' texts. Take those away and what's left?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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