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Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
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(December 4, 2013 at 4:03 pm)DOS Wrote: Does it change anything? Belief usually is based on something and you believe in null. You believe in the position!!! Faceplam!!! My point is that "the belief" (or lack of belief) and "the position" are not separate. You earlier asked max if his claim (that he is an atheist) applied to the belief or the position. I'm pointing out that they are related.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould (December 3, 2013 at 3:06 am)DOS Wrote: "There was, they say, here on earth a thinker and philosopher. He rejected everything, 'laws, conscience, faith,' and, above all, the future life. He died; he expected to go straight to darkness and death and he found a future life before him. He was astounded and indignant. 'This is against my principles!' he said. And he was punished for that... that is, you must excuse me, I am just repeating what I heard myself, it's only a legend... he was sentenced to walk a quadrillion kilometres in the dark (we've adopted the metric system, you know): and when he has finished that quadrillion, the gates of heaven would be opened to him and he'll be If the man had to walk a quadrillion kilometers for his crime of disbelief, then how many did god walk for his mass murder and insatiable greed?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. (December 4, 2013 at 3:45 pm)DOS Wrote:(December 4, 2013 at 3:39 pm)max-greece Wrote: I have already told you several times that I am an atheist.Then which one between the two makes you a non believer? The rejection of belief or the position? Nice try to reverse the burden of proof. I have seen nothing to convince me there is any God.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
The eternal christian:
You can't prove me wrong, therefore I am right. I can't prove you wrong, therefore you are wrong. (December 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm)DOS Wrote: Believer believes in God, salvation, the eternity of the soul etc ete etc and you simply believe in the position that there are no God, santa claus, hobbits... If I had a dollar for every time a Christian came here to tell me what I believe, I'd be richer than a televangelist. Let's see if we can make this painfully simple for you, as that seems to be the only way you will grasp it. I claim that I am holding six pennies in my hand right now. I am unable to provide you any evidence that this is true, and due to that fact, you reject my claim. Does that mean you automaticallly believe that I do not have six pennies in my hand? There is no evidence to verify either way, so does your rejection of the claim mean that by default you believe the opposite to be true?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
I am an atheist because I am not a theist. How is this so difficult?
Honestly, with all this trouble over one simple word, I don't see any way in hell how we're ever going to be able to talk about gods and all that swaddling.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(December 4, 2013 at 9:31 am)tokutter Wrote:(December 3, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Don't take it personally, most of the posters here are repressed children, butthurt about religion, blaming gods, religions and churches for all their problems. Crying and whining all day, all they do is hate and insult people who disagree with them. Because I wanted to read your delightful posts. (December 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm)DOS Wrote: Believer believes in God, salvation, the eternity of the soul etc ete etc and you simply believe in the position that there are no God, santa claus, hobbits... No, I simply believe in one less god than you do. At least get your definitions right. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
I don't find this new guy DOS's posts at all compelling. He is welcome to his rude, poorly formed sentences .. whatever they may mean to him.
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