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First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 12, 2013 at 11:19 pm
Quote:Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association said Tuesday that the founding fathers intended the First Amendment to only protect Christianity, not Islam or any other religions.
On his radio program, called Focal Point, Fischer said the word “religion” in the First Amendment referred to Christianity alone. That is why, according to Fischer, Satanists cannot seek equal representation at the Oklahoma statehouse grounds.
“At the time of the founding [of the United States], 99.8 percent of the population of the colonies were Christians. The other 0.2 percent were Jews,” he said.
“But the point is, by ‘religion’ the founders were thinking of Christianity,” Fischer continued. “So the purpose was to protect the free exercise of the Christian faith. It wasn’t about protecting anything else.”
“They weren’t providing any cover or shelter for the free exercise of Islam or even Judaism or even atheism. They weren’t saying you can’t do it — I want to be clear on that — they weren’t prohibiting that, they were just saying that is not what we are talking about here.”
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 12, 2013 at 11:24 pm
What the Founding Fucking Fathers intended don't mean shit anymore. That was 200+ years ago and things have changed.
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 12, 2013 at 11:28 pm
I used to believe it just meant christianity. I figured the idea was that as long as you're worshiping Jesus, you're doing ok. And this was a christian nation, where we've always had god on our money, in our pledge, and the ten commandments on our court buildings since the beginning. Whether that was the original intention or not, it should mean all religions.
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 13, 2013 at 6:14 am
What it means is that the founding fathers were pretty educated people and they realized that, historically speaking, one of the things that often causes nations to crumble is state sponsered religious dogma, especially when the state dogma becomes the beliefs of the minority of the population.
Also, might want to inform Bryan Fischer that a whole fuck of a lot of the founding fathers were deists, not Christians. Which really blows his idea out of the water, doncha think?
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 13, 2013 at 6:37 am
Surely they would have used the word "Christianity" and not "religion" if that's what they meant?
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 13, 2013 at 6:42 am
(December 13, 2013 at 6:14 am)TaraJo Wrote: Also, might want to inform Bryan Fischer that a whole fuck of a lot of the founding fathers were deists, not Christians.
They were also quite big on slavery.
So why the fuck are their 'intentions' still relevant.
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 13, 2013 at 6:45 am
(December 13, 2013 at 6:42 am)Napoléon Wrote: (December 13, 2013 at 6:14 am)TaraJo Wrote: Also, might want to inform Bryan Fischer that a whole fuck of a lot of the founding fathers were deists, not Christians.
They were also quite big on slavery.
So why the fuck are their 'intentions' still relevant.
Not to mention, they didn't seem to think women worthy of the right to vote or really do anything other than spit out babies.
....then again, I'm pretty sure Bryan Fischer thinks that, too. :/
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 13, 2013 at 7:06 am
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(December 13, 2013 at 6:42 am)Napoléon Wrote: (December 13, 2013 at 6:14 am)TaraJo Wrote: Also, might want to inform Bryan Fischer that a whole fuck of a lot of the founding fathers were deists, not Christians.
They were also quite big on slavery.
So why the fuck are their 'intentions' still relevant.
Among certain types of conservatives, original intent is practically sacrosanct. It's fundamentalism for the constitutional crowd (with all of the hypocrisy and ridiculous outcomes you'd expect of fundamentalists and their flawed reading of "scripture").
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 13, 2013 at 7:17 am
Dumbass.
As Stimbo said, if they meant Christianity they would have said Christianity. The dictionary tells us what words mean, we cannot substitute our own meanings! And as Napoléon said, even if they did, what relevance does that have today. The founding fathers were not infallible.
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RE: First Amendment = Christianity Only
December 13, 2013 at 1:52 pm
(December 13, 2013 at 6:14 am)TaraJo Wrote: What it means is that the founding fathers were pretty educated people and they realized that, historically speaking, one of the things that often causes nations to crumble is state sponsered religious dogma, especially when the state dogma becomes the beliefs of the minority of the population.
Also, might want to inform Bryan Fischer that a whole fuck of a lot of the founding fathers were deists, not Christians. Which really blows his idea out of the water, doncha think?
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