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Father Arguments
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Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Hey, my dad came up with a few arguments to "challenge my thinking". He's really tricky. He is christian, but is not traditional. He doesn't believe in hell, or very much human interaction. I think he might be a deist. Anyways, his argument was: "You believe in an absolute moral philosophy. What is the basis for that? What is the basis for an absolute moral code that almost everyone follows? Who came up with that?" I tried countering him but it got confusing. Can someone come up with a better counter?
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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 7:41 pm
What is an absolute moral authority?
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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Evolution as a social species.
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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 7:51 pm (This post was last modified: December 14, 2013 at 7:53 pm by feeling.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq2C7fyVTA4

You can also ask your father what exactly he believes and why he believes it. To clarify and find grounding upon which you can argue further.
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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Pocaracas beat me to it. I was going to word it as 'the commonality of human existence'.

However, I don't believe in moral absolutism. Not that anyone asked. Wink

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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 8:43 pm
I think your father is full of shit.

Most xtians are.
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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 8:44 pm
(December 14, 2013 at 8:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I think your father is full of shit.

Most xtians are.

Blunt as ever eh Min?
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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 8:54 pm
I tried the evolutionary social being stuff already and he said: "that makes it arbitrary. A person's philosophy of murder is as good as anyone else's. There needs to be something else that comes up with a moral law: a moral law giver". I agree, in that he is full of shit.
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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 8:59 pm
(December 14, 2013 at 8:54 pm)Severan Wrote: A person's philosophy of murder is as good as anyone else's.
That just misses the whole "social" detail...
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RE: Father Arguments
December 14, 2013 at 9:01 pm
(December 14, 2013 at 8:54 pm)Severan Wrote: I tried the evolutionary social being stuff already and he said: "that makes it arbitrary. A person's philosophy of murder is as good as anyone else's. There needs to be something else that comes up with a moral law: a moral law giver". I agree, in that he is full of shit.
How does he know that the law giver gives moral laws?
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