Privacy concerns from [split] AF Hall of Shame (Post Edition)

[Jacob(smooth)]

Now I'm curious about what rayaan can dig up on me...

I'm curious to know how much of the recent content of our debates has been based on information about me he's gleaned from other sources.

[pineapplebunnybounce]

From my interpretation of the privacy policy, what Rayaan did is in clear violation of it. Is this not going to be an issue because he is an administrator?

[Kayenneh]

Kay should stalk me.

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[Angrboda]

Information is the stock and trade of a moderator. It's how the smooth operation of the forum is kept smooth and secure. (Would you complain about them finding a sock account or troll this way.) Generally, I keep such info on a need to know basis though, and don't broadcast the fact, as it can be unsettling to some. I keep no secrets, but I know that there is information "out there" that an internet sleuth could find that I'm not altogether comfortable with them finding.

This was not for the purposes of finding a sock or a troll was it. I'd love to know if there is a legitimate reason beyond rayaans own amusement. Cos I aint fucking amused.

Identifying those for whom such research will profitably reveal improper conduct of a member can only be retro-actively identified, after the fact. I do a lot of log searches as an IRC moderator that turn up nothing relevant; however, it's important that I find the ones that are relevant. I can only do that by collecting the data, then sieving it to determine if it's relevant (say a ban evader, using a slightly disguised host mask to avoid detection). It sounds scary, and perhaps what Rayaan does is not innocent; I have no way of knowing. What I do know is you research first, then discard the result second.

[Jackalope]

Yeah, but that was only the first step.


Why, does that make you feel more insecure or something? Are you worried for some reason?

I'm unamused by this rayaan. Really I am. Sorry but using mod priviledges to look me up for your own amusement, seems wrong to me.

Its not a matter of being "more insecure", its a matter of decency. You sent me, by PM, a link to a photo of my family. You said you've been watching my youtube vids. Was this for any reason other than your own amusement?

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Well, the privacy policy of our forums can be found here. It's no secret that we on the staff have access to the IPs of the members.

EDIT: Oh, the discussion continued while I was posting. Never mind me..

Indeed. I read it. And quoted from it. IP addresses is one thing. For forum functionality, to prevent sock puppets etc, no problem there.

Using the information given to look up other stuff for "lulz" is not.

Look at this way. Rayaan and I have enjoyed (or at least I have) debating on this forum many times. Now he tells me he has read what I have written on at least two other forums, watched vids on my youtube channel and even sent me by pm a link to a picture of me and my family, just so I know he has seen it. This introduces a somewhat unlevel element to any debates don't you think?

Jacob - I've raised this issue in the staff area so that we can discuss what's happened and respond appropriately.

Cordially,

CD

[Rayaan]

I'm unamused by this rayaan. Really I am. Sorry but using mod priviledges to look me up for your own amusement, seems wrong to me.

Its not a matter of being "more insecure", its a matter of decency. You sent me, by PM, a link to a photo of my family. You said you've been watching my youtube vids. Was this for any reason other than your own amusement?

But I didn't make any of that information about you public, did I?

I just told you those things in PM because in this post you told me "go on and impress me if you think you know who I am," which is exactly what I did.

I was just letting you know, but now unfortunately you're freaking out over this. I'm sorry if that bothers you so much.


And this:

Well, the privacy policy of our forums can be found here. It's no secret that we on the staff have access to the IPs of the members.

EDIT: Oh, the discussion continued while I was posting. Never mind me..

[Napoléon]

I'm unamused by this rayaan. Really I am. Sorry but using mod priviledges to look me up for your own amusement, seems wrong to me.

How's he used his mod privileges to look you up? You basically gave away a lot of personal information when you were telling everyone you were a podiatrist.

Its not a matter of being "more insecure", its a matter of decency. You sent me, by PM, a link to a photo of my family.[b] You said you've been watching my youtube vids. Was this for any reason other than your own amusement?

Put it on the internet and expect someone to view it. Really don't see how it's Rayaan's fault that you have pictures of your family online.

[Jacob(smooth)]

I'm unamused by this rayaan. Really I am. Sorry but using mod priviledges to look me up for your own amusement, seems wrong to me.

Its not a matter of being "more insecure", its a matter of decency. You sent me, by PM, a link to a photo of my family. You said you've been watching my youtube vids. Was this for any reason other than your own amusement?

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Indeed. I read it. And quoted from it. IP addresses is one thing. For forum functionality, to prevent sock puppets etc, no problem there.

Using the information given to look up other stuff for "lulz" is not.

Look at this way. Rayaan and I have enjoyed (or at least I have) debating on this forum many times. Now he tells me he has read what I have written on at least two other forums, watched vids on my youtube channel and even sent me by pm a link to a picture of me and my family, just so I know he has seen it. This introduces a somewhat unlevel element to any debates don't you think?

Jacob - I've raised this issue in the staff area so that we can discuss what's happened and respond appropriately.

Cordially,

CD

Thankyou. I've done likewise via the report system. I'll await your discussions. I don't have a problem with IP checking for sock's etc but I think this goes somewhat beyond that.

[Mystical]

[quote='Jacob(smooth)' pid='571254' dateline='1388179553']
How's he used his mod privileges to look you up? You basically gave away a lot of personal information when you were telling everyone you were a podiatrist.

Badwriter is a teacher, Creed is a crisis counselor, Dragonetti is in the military, and Jacob is a podiatrist. Divulging one's work is not high risk information-divulging unless your IP can be traced. Mods have that ability therefore their responsibility to ensure their members privacy and safety is quite high. Worst case scenarios abound when dishonest people get personal information (Rayaan being an honest person, I don't see any real harm done, unless Jacob doesn't feel comfortable now being a member.)

Put it on the internet and expect someone to view it. Really don't see how it's Rayaan's fault that you have pictures of your family online.

Come now, is it really relevant for a mod to look at your Facebook or to read your posts on a podiatry forum? In compliance with the rules, I would think you would do a search, see he was a real person--and not go reading their personal information. Since it has nothing to do with mod duties.

[Jacob(smooth)]

I'm unamused by this rayaan. Really I am. Sorry but using mod priviledges to look me up for your own amusement, seems wrong to me.

Its not a matter of being "more insecure", its a matter of decency. You sent me, by PM, a link to a photo of my family. You said you've been watching my youtube vids. Was this for any reason other than your own amusement?

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But I didn't make any of that information about you public, did I?

Well thats frightfully decent of you.

I just told you those things in PM because in this post you told me "go on and impress me if you think you know who I am," which is exactly what I did.

Yeah, it has slipped my mind that you were a mod. That sort of reduces it from a supercybersleuth matching up information from posting style to someone on a power trip gloating about how you know lots about me.

I was just letting you know, but now unfortunately you're freaking out over this. I'm sorry if that bothers you so much.

Yes, it bothers me. I did actually ask you a question rayaan. Let me repeat it.

You obviously linked this all up after I said what I did for a living. So why did you do it? Was it for your own amusement or were you investigating because there was a report on one of my posts, or something to lead you to think I was a sock?

Come now, is it really relevant for a mod to look at your Facebook or to read your posts on a podiatry forum? In compliance with the rules, I would think you would do a search, see he was a real person--and not go reading their personal information. Since it has nothing to do with mod duties.

Yes, quite.