Has anyone heard of Susanne Eman?

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

You`re right, I`m wrong.
If she wants to be obese, so be it, at least she`s happy.

I doubt you really believe that. You're probably just sick of arguing and chickened out.

[salamenfuckyou]

You`re right, I`m wrong.
If she wants to be obese, so be it, at least she`s happy.

I doubt you really believe that. You're probably just sick of arguing and chickened out.

I`ve given you my opinion. Essentially if she wants to be the fattest woman on the planet and that makes her happy, what else is there to say. Enjoy Life Susanne.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

Next!

[Aractus]

Who cares? Perhaps for some people, it would be a fair trade off. For others it wouldn't. I'm not going to bump in and decide what people should be doing with their lives. I wouldn't want somebody forcing me to stop doing what I love and I wouldn't to force others to stop doing what they love either.

You people bashing her are no better than homophobes. These people have a different sense of sexuality ingrained in them and instead of living a lie, they choose to express it. We should be congratulating them for "coming out".

She manipulates the people around her into believing she's healthy when she isn't, she hurts those who love her by putting them through it, she's irresponsible as a parent.

By the way, anorexia is quite different since it's a serious mental disease - but no one looks at an underweight anorexic and says "good for them, their choice, they're perfectly healthy and doing what makes them happy"!

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For all I know, she could be making tons of money on her porn sites to support her kids. Do you have any evidence that she doesn't care about her kids or is this all just assumption?

Supposedly she makes $100,000/year by modelling (not porn), that's actually substantially more than most porn stars. However, she spends a huge chunk of money on food, and what about all her medical bills? Take those into account and her lucrative salary isn't that special, not to mention that it's not worth prostitution yourself to an early grave for $100,000/year.

She doesn't care about her kids - watch the DrOz video which was filmed in 2011, then DrPhil filmed in 2012. On DrPhil she claimed her kids were fine with it - they were scared of her dying, upset and crying, and so was her sister, and she was lying to them telling them that she's healthy when she should know that she isn't.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

Who cares? Perhaps for some people, it would be a fair trade off. For others it wouldn't. I'm not going to bump in and decide what people should be doing with their lives. I wouldn't want somebody forcing me to stop doing what I love and I wouldn't to force others to stop doing what they love either.

You people bashing her are no better than homophobes. These people have a different sense of sexuality ingrained in them and instead of living a lie, they choose to express it. We should be congratulating them for "coming out".

She manipulates the people around her into believing she's healthy when she isn't, she hurts those who love her by putting them through it, she's irresponsible as a parent.

Delusions/rationalizations are certainly an understandable consequence of trying to live your dream while at the same time trying to satisfying other contradictory desires and also trying to satisfy the ethical system society pushes on you. There's a desire for your sexual lifestyle and there's a desire for a healthy lifestyle. The two in this case are at odds. Let's put this as +/-. Fat fetishizers want both (+/+). Some have deluded themselves into thinking that this is possible right now. Some try to do it anyway and live with the costs to their health although they try to minimize those costs where possible (+/-). You're wanting to them to deny their sexual desires and always align themselves with health no matter what (-/+). You're just for health for health's sake. Many homosexuals died from aids in the 80's and 90's. Do we say "Oh, if only we forced them to undergo gay conversion therapy, they would have never caught AIDS and died?" (i.e. -/+). No. Instead we've worked to advance science enough to the point where we have made AIDs a much lesser threat than it once was (homosexuality is now virtually +/+).

Now, as far as her responsibilities as parent go, you may be right. I'm just for doing what you want insofar as that doesn't hurt other people. Is going to an early grave hurting your love ones? Do you have a duty to sustain yourself for the sake of those closest to you? I'm not sure yet. If that's the case, where do you draw the line then? Because logically, if we have a duty to sustain our lives for the sake of others, then all six billion of us should be ethically compelled to be spending all our lives studying to be doctors so we could then spend our lives to find the cure for death. Where do you draw the line?

By the way, anorexia is quite different since it's a serious mental disease - but no one looks at an underweight anorexic and says "good for them, their choice, they're perfectly healthy and doing what makes them happy"!

Maybe we should?

[Aractus]

Many homosexuals died from aids in the 80's and 90's. Do we say "Oh, if only we forced them to undergo gay conversion therapy, they would have never caught AIDS and died?" (i.e. -/+). No. Instead we've worked to advance science enough to the point where we have made AIDs a much lesser threat than it once was (homosexuality is now virtually +/+).

Fuck me you are deluded. More people - ie gays - are contracting HIV now than ever before. You may believe that homosexuality is +/+ but nothing could be further from the truth. It's not just HIV among gays that poses a negative problem - it's drug use and a high number of sexual partners (ie promiscuity) too.

Now, as far as her responsibilities as parent go, you may be right. I'm just for doing what you want insofar as that doesn't hurt other people. Is going to an early grave hurting your love ones? Do you have a duty to sustain yourself for the sake of those closest to you? I'm not sure yet. If that's the case, where do you draw the line then? Because logically, if we have a duty to sustain our lives for the sake of others, then all six billion of us should be ethically compelled to be spending all our lives studying to be doctors so we could then spend our lives to find the cure for death. Where do you draw the line?

Straw man argument.

Maybe we should?

Um, no we shouldn't. Why would you consciously choose to give somebody negative reinforcement?

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

Many homosexuals died from aids in the 80's and 90's. Do we say "Oh, if only we forced them to undergo gay conversion therapy, they would have never caught AIDS and died?" (i.e. -/+). No. Instead we've worked to advance science enough to the point where we have made AIDs a much lesser threat than it once was (homosexuality is now virtually +/+).

Fuck me you are deluded. More people - ie gays - are contracting HIV now than ever before. You may believe that homosexuality is +/+ but nothing could be further from the truth. It's not just HIV among gays that poses a negative problem - it's drug use and a high number of sexual partners (ie promiscuity) too.

What I meant was that it's much more treatable and manageable than now than it once was. Conceivable, it's curable in the future. Do you think we should cure AIDs or should we promote heterosexuality and abstinence? I doubt in this case you'd promote the latter (-/+), you'd promote a cure (+/+) yet in the case of fat admirers, you insist (-/+) which makes you inconsistent.

Likewise, for another analogy, even though cars were once metal death traps, we didn't say "let's ban cars", we made cars safer with air bag and seat belts.

Now, as far as her responsibilities as parent go, you may be right. I'm just for doing what you want insofar as that doesn't hurt other people. Is going to an early grave hurting your love ones? Do you have a duty to sustain yourself for the sake of those closest to you? I'm not sure yet. If that's the case, where do you draw the line then? Because logically, if we have a duty to sustain our lives for the sake of others, then all six billion of us should be ethically compelled to be spending all our lives studying to be doctors so we could then spend our lives to find the cure for death. Where do you draw the line?

Straw man argument.

I can't make a straw man argument out of an argument no body made. This is what seems to be the logical result of your position whether you realize it our not. I'm trying to try debunk your argument by showing how absurd it'd be if applied consistently.

Maybe we should?

Um, no we shouldn't. Why would you consciously choose to give somebody negative reinforcement?

It's only "negative" by your standards. I'm merely being trying to be consistent.

[Bad Wolf]

I find someone being that overweight disgusting and repulsive. How can someone knowingly eat 10 times the needed calories a day while there are kids over in Africa starving to death. I understand being slightly overweight but this.... how can someone look at themselves in a mirror and think this is ok.
I heard somewhere that the world actually produces enough food so that everyone on the planet could get above the needed daily calorie intake for males. If that is indeed true then that makes people like this woman (morbidly obese) incredibly selfish people. I don't care if they've had a traumatic childhood, i don't care if its a defensive mechanism to cope with stress, if you get that big there is no reason to justify that at all.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

I find someone being that overweight disgusting and repulsive. How can someone knowingly eat 10 times the needed calories a day while there are kids over in Africa starving to death. I understand being slightly overweight but this.... how can someone look at themselves in a mirror and think this is ok.
I heard somewhere that the world actually produces enough food so that everyone on the planet could get above the needed daily calorie intake for males. If that is indeed true then that makes people like this woman (morbidly obese) incredibly selfish people. I don't care if they've had a traumatic childhood, i don't care if its a defensive mechanism to cope with stress, if you get that big there is no reason to justify that at all.

What are you doing on the internet? You could be an operator for a suicide hotline saving lives instead of wasting time on the internet.

[Bad Wolf]

I'm sorry, i didn't find your argument of: 'whatever makes you happy' very appealing, especially when I applied that to Hitler