Ariel Sharon Dies at 85

[EgoRaptor]

Was he 16? Was he into femdom? Was he a fan of Citizen Sade?

In half his posts he was trying to redefine libertarianism.

No one is trying to redefine libertarianism other than the capitalists.

The man to invent the term libertarianism (in the political sense of the term) was Joseph Déjacque, a communist. You have no right to steal a word that historically you have no connection to. In most countries libertarianism is associated with anti-capitalism.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

Wait, I'm confusing catfish for another member. Who was the guy that was constantly saying libertarians are nazis?

[EgoRaptor]

Wait, I'm confusing catfish for another member. Who was the guy that was constantly saying libertarians are nazis?

Minimalist?

[Rayaan]

Does anybody else suspect that EgoRaptor is actually our dear banned member catfish? They say the same dumb stuff about libertarianism and Ego joined a week after catfish was banned.

I don't suspect that Egor is catfish. A lot of other members may have a similar viewpoints regarding libertarianism, so it's not something very unique.

[Jackalope]

Wait, I'm confusing catfish for another member. Who was the guy that was constantly saying libertarians are nazis?

Cratehorus?

Dude called me a redneck - he was truly unhinged.

[EgoRaptor]

Wait, I'm confusing catfish for another member. Who was the guy that was constantly saying libertarians are nazis?

Cratehorus?

Dude called me a redneck - he was truly unhinged.

You... a redneck!?

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The man to invent the term libertarianism (in the political sense of the term) was Joseph Déjacque, a communist. You have no right to steal a word that historically you have no connection to. In most countries libertarianism is associated with anti-capitalism.

First of all how do you 'steal' a word. Words aren't property so they can't be stolen. They can be used however they like and if they become popular then they become established. Words change meaning. "girl" used to mean "Man" then it became a young man, then any youth and finally just a female youth.

Secondly why do you need a 'right' to take a word and use it in another sense?

Thirdly most countries don't use the term libertarian at all

Fourthly the origin of the term 'Libertarian' refers to people who beleived in Freethought rather than determinism in a political sense it was used in britian in the late 18th century to describe 'defenders of liberty' ie enlightenment liberals only 60 years later did the French Proudhon use it to describe anarchism. SO I suppose you think he had 'no right' to steal the word?

The term in the US came into fashion because the term 'liberal' has been so corrupted in the USA that it mow refers to an authoritarian anti free speech, wealth confiscating movement which is utterly at conflict with the way American 'Liberals' currently act. American 'liberals' are really social democrats.

[Tiberius]

Murray Rothbard, one of the chief deities of your religion, was a racist.

1) There are no deities in Libertarianism.

2) Libertarianism is not a religion, it's a political ideology.

3) People today are labelled by today's standards. We don't call modern Democrats racists and slavery supporters, despite the fact that the pro-slavery party in Lincoln's time was the Democratic Party.

Murray Rothbard may have have racist views, and he may have had libertarian leanings (though if you want to be accurate, he was an anarcho-capitalist), but that doesn't mean Libertarianism itself is racist, or other Libertarians are racist, especially when we are talking about Libertarianism today.

Also, stop pretending like you get to define libertarianism. Libertarianism was originally a synonym for social anarchism. Then capitalists stole it. So you don't get to define libertarianism, & libertarianism is so poorly defined that just about everyone can claim to be a libertarian. What you are doing is no true scotsman at its best.

I'm not defining Libertarianism. Libertarianism is quite nicely defined I think, and the origins of the term don't matter in this discussion. What matters are the views that the term encompasses. Views that are so opposite to racism that it is almost amusing the ways in which you try to equate the two. It's like watching someone try to describe a square circle.

No, just about everyone cannot claim to be a Libertarianism. There are certainly a number of branches of Libertarianism, but the most common and the de-facto stance is that shared by the Libertarian Party of the US. Even ignoring that commonality, you will not find a branch of Libertarianism that is racist, because at the core, all Libertarians believe in personal liberty for everyone. The main disagreements often appear on the fiscal side.

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My understanding of Libertarianism leads me to understand that a person can be happily racist and refuse to conduct any business with another and Libertarians would leave that to his or her individual choice but libertarians oppose any government racism.

[LastPoet]

From my understanding it seems there is alot of 'woo' regarding libertarians, somewhat of an overgeneralization. It is a political idea, how utopic, but to be fair, they all are. The major fallacy its in the 'human rights declaration' article 1: All humans are born equal. How utopic