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Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:28 pm
I believe in 1 Chronicles God killed around 70,000 people because David ordered that a census be taken.
Can someone rationally and logically explain why this is...well...ok, and righteous? Especially when it came from a God who issued the commandment "thou shall not kill?"
I mean, fuck, I thought that the worst thing that happened regarding a census involved fava beans and a nice chianti.
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:39 pm
Oh lord. Another one. Well, at least no caps.
Sorry Boris, no. Not with an answer which would satisfy you anyway. No more than for the bears, lots wife or the rest.
It's like this. If you believe in the God of the bible, he is good by definition. He defines what good is, so any OTHER morality is evil, simply because it's different from Gods. Thus ask any true Christian tm you'll get a variation on that answer.
If you Don't believe the bible to be literally and inerrant true, like all atheists and some Christians, it's a moot point because it probably never even happened, at least not like that.
Thus these types of questions are always futile because the justice argument is circular and thus inexplicable to people outside the loop.
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:42 pm
I guess that just leads to the much-repeated question, "how can anyone believe and dedicate themselves to a God of that nature?"
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:47 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Boris Karloff Wrote: I guess that just leads to the much-repeated question, "how can anyone believe and dedicate themselves to a God of that nature?"
Because they start believing before they are aware of those "events".
Once they're made aware of those "events" the belief is well rooted and so rationalization kicks in.
Might makes right, in this case.
Moves in mysterious ways.
All good, blah blah blah.
Then you have those that didn't have their belief so well rooted, like jacob here and other people who even become atheists...
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:50 pm
I'll never turn to the dark side!
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:55 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 6:50 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I'll never turn to the dark side!
I think you're pretty close to it, though, since you said that you don't believe in the basis of Christianity (your own words).
http://atheistforums.org/thread-22916-po...#pid571602
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:56 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 6:50 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I'll never turn to the dark side!
Search your feelings... you know it to be true.
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:59 pm
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(January 20, 2014 at 6:50 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I'll never turn to the dark side!
Maybe not while you're alive... but we'll have to see.
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!" heh...
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 6:59 pm
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(January 20, 2014 at 6:55 pm)Rayaan Wrote: (January 20, 2014 at 6:50 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I'll never turn to the dark side!
I think you're pretty close to it, though, since you said that you don't believe in the basis of Christianity (your own words).
http://atheistforums.org/thread-22916-po...#pid571602
Close, but no cigar. Not yet. I'm still going with the faith of functionality. I don't believe whisky is good for me either, but I still drink it.
(January 20, 2014 at 6:56 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (January 20, 2014 at 6:50 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I'll never turn to the dark side!
Search your feelings... you know it to be true.
You'll be telling me next obi wan never told me what happened to my heavenly father.
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Christians, please justify this for me
January 20, 2014 at 7:07 pm
Oblique comment (has bugger all to do with the topic):
Q: How did Darth Vader know what Luke was getting for Christmas?
A: He said, 'Luke, I have felt your presents.'
(the above was emailed to me by a nephew)
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