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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 8:57 am
Well the truth is locked in there somewhere.. Veiled within Memory of time passed.
Somebody hypnotize me! I'll tell you for sure if god of the bible is real or not!
And.. no, angel didn't have any wings.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 9:06 am
Ok, storytime.
There was once a little girl. She was bright, funny, happy, smart and not too bad looking. She loved her daddy dearly, always tried to please him. And then the dreams started. She couldn't understand how in the dreams her beloved daddy would take a riffle and shoot her dead. Time and time and time again.
This little girl grew to be a woman and finally figured out just what her mind (via dreams) was trying to tell her.
The human mind thinks and delights in stories. This is what religions and unscrupulous people utilise when they are trying to sell you something of little or no value.
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 9:18 am
Sounds a lot like my dreams 
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 9:21 am
(January 31, 2014 at 9:18 am)Luckie Wrote: Sounds a lot like my dreams
I like to think that there is a part of our minds that can see things AS THEY REALLY ARE and on occasion this part of our mind can actually influence our dreams.
I for one take note of such occurrences and wait and watch with a more sceptical mind the unfolding of a situation.
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 9:30 am
Isaiah 6:2-3
2 King James Version (KJV) Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
The seraphim aren't angels then GC?
Nemo me impune lacessit.
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Angels always appear in human form in OT.
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 2:40 pm
(January 30, 2014 at 9:47 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Does the Bible ever establish that your average angel has wings?
Does the Qur'an ever establish if your average Jinn has green skin?
Both are ridiculous questions.
Why are we talking about mythical creatures as if they have real attributes?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 4:46 pm
For the same reason we talk about anything that doesn't really exist. It amuses us.
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 6:07 pm
(January 31, 2014 at 2:51 am)Godschild Wrote: (January 30, 2014 at 9:47 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Does the Bible ever establish that your average angel has wings?
Angels have never been described as having wings, other beings yes but not angels. Every appearance of an angel in the Bible describes them as looking like men. Humans will not have wings in heaven either.
GC
Where does it say that no wings in heaven?
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RE: Angels
January 31, 2014 at 10:27 pm
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(January 31, 2014 at 9:30 am)Stue Denim Wrote: Isaiah 6:2-3
2 King James Version (KJV) Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
The seraphim aren't angels then GC?
Correct.
(January 31, 2014 at 6:07 pm)truthBtold Wrote: (January 31, 2014 at 2:51 am)Godschild Wrote: Angels have never been described as having wings, other beings yes but not angels. Every appearance of an angel in the Bible describes them as looking like men. Humans will not have wings in heaven either.
GC
Where does it say that no wings in heaven?
It says we will be as Christ and He didn't have wings, what's the big deal with wings anyway, especially coming from non-believers.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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