Libertarian Dilemmas

[Shell B]

Really, I think that you're putting too much thought into the ideology of a passive and easily crushed bunch of people.

Hehe, sometimes you are the Gru of this forum. I would never think to use the words "easily crushed" when referring to a group of people. Your elitism is adorable.

[thesummerqueen]

TEGH, I think you are putting to much though into a ideology that can be summed us as "get off my lawn".

Not quite - there are American Libertarians who would take his questions to their natural extremes.

I 'met' one the other day. He was supposed to be a friend. Turns out he's an anti-Semite. That was fucking weird.

[Minimalist]

Absolutely incorrect..

Since when do you know anything about Libertarianism? Not once have you exhibited any independent or creative thought about anything? You seem ignorant of any concept (your constant misuse of terms like 'invisible hand' rather proves that' and are only capable of shouting from stage left in the most absurdly predicatable fashion. You never deviate from immature leftism and have no complexity in your viewpoint whatsoever.

Any one who can live in this world and believe in an "invisible" any thing is not worth the time to discuss with. You may as well believe in some fucking god. They are about as real.

Time to grow the fuck up. The world is not as you fervently want it to be.

[Cato]

You never deviate from immature leftism and have no complexity in your viewpoint whatsoever.

Immature leftism? So I understand this a bit, please tell me what 'mature leftism' is. I've never encountered 'mature leftism', fuck, let alone 'immature leftism'. Shit, while you're at it maybe you ought to explain to me what leftism is.

[JuliaL]

What if your neighbor owns a nuclear bomb. Presently it's not harming anyone. But it does have a giant red button that if pushed would ignite the bomb destroying everything nearby. The neighbor promises never to push it but perhaps the neighbor might hit the bottom accidentally. Would it be wrong under libertarianism to forcefully take away the bomb because it poses a risk?

I am not a libertarian. I assist the peacekeeping authorities in their immediate removal of the threat of communal plasmatization. We celebrate.

What if somebody does not like seeing your house? They think your house is ugly and they don't like to think about it. Them seeing your house puts a thought in their mind that they don't like.

Tough.
I am not a libertarian. They don't like it, they can move to Montana and see how they get along with others like themselves.

If your 8 year kid does not like living with you (perhaps he doesn't like the cereal you buy), would it be violating his right to self to deny him leaving the house? If not, why so?

I am not a libertarian. My responsibility for the kid's health and safety trumps any rights he alleges.

How does something become one's property? Say you have a future space explorer arriving at an uninhabited planet? Is the whole planet automatically his? Is it just the part he stepped on?

I am not a libertarian. The alien only gets property rights if it is of a denomination which believes that it is bringing true faith to the local heathens. And if they have the appropriate superior weaponry to enforce that belief.

And say that this planet has non intelligent life (imagine earth without humans), is he taking property away from the animals? Do animals not have a right to property? Why not?

I am not a libertarian. Self awareness rules because it makes self preservation easier. Non-self aware life cannot conceive of property or property rights and so has none. Self aware life will have to contest the matter using the superior weaponry taken from the invading aliens.

And can we legitimately own animals? We just scooped them up from the wild and put them in zoos. We bulldoze their rain forests. Why aren't these violations of the two principles of libertarianism?

I am not a libertarian. Legitimate from whose perspective? That of the self aware local population who has just taken the superior weaponry from the invading aliens and reduced them to grovelling beggars? The answer in that case is No!

[là bạn điên]

Since when do you know anything about Libertarianism? Not once have you exhibited any independent or creative thought about anything? You seem ignorant of any concept (your constant misuse of terms like 'invisible hand' rather proves that' and are only capable of shouting from stage left in the most absurdly predicatable fashion. You never deviate from immature leftism and have no complexity in your viewpoint whatsoever.

Any one who can live in this world and believe in an "invisible" any thing is not worth the time to discuss with. You may as well believe in some fucking god. They are about as real.

Time to grow the fuck up. The world is not as you fervently want it to be.

Some juvenile marxist who has never done a days work in his life telling me that I need to 'grow up'.

telling me 'the world isn't as I would like it to be' when All you can do is spout such utter ranting nonsense.

I suppose you don;t believe in Electricity or thought -they are invisible too.

Do you actually ever have an original thought?

[EgoRaptor]

Any one who can live in this world and believe in an "invisible" any thing is not worth the time to discuss with. You may as well believe in some fucking god. They are about as real.

Time to grow the fuck up. The world is not as you fervently want it to be.

Some juvenile marxist who has never done a days work in his life telling me that I need to 'grow up'.

telling me 'the world isn't as I would like it to be' when All you can do is spout such utter ranting nonsense.

I suppose you don;t believe in Electricity or thought -they are invisible too.

Do you actually ever have an original thought?

Actually IIRC Min is retired, & he has certainly worked. He is also far from being a Marxist, he is a liberal.

[Psykhronic]

Yeah, la ban, wrong person. You clearly confused Min and Ego... somehow?

[là bạn điên]

Some juvenile marxist who has never done a days work in his life telling me that I need to 'grow up'.

telling me 'the world isn't as I would like it to be' when All you can do is spout such utter ranting nonsense.

I suppose you don;t believe in Electricity or thought -they are invisible too.

Do you actually ever have an original thought?

Actually IIRC Min is retired, & he has certainly worked. He is also far from being a Marxist, he is a liberal.

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Some juvenile marxist who has never done a days work in his life telling me that I need to 'grow up'.

telling me 'the world isn't as I would like it to be' when All you can do is spout such utter ranting nonsense.

I suppose you don;t believe in Electricity or thought -they are invisible too.

Do you actually ever have an original thought?

Actually IIRC Min is retired, & he has certainly worked. He is also far from being a Marxist, he is a liberal.

He is certainly no liberal. he is a doctrinaire leftist. Liberalism is not anti capitalism.

[No_God]

What if your neighbor owns a nuclear bomb. Presently it's not harming anyone. But it does have a giant red button that if pushed would ignite the bomb destroying everything nearby. The neighbor promises never to push it but perhaps the neighbor might hit the bottom accidentally. Would it be wrong under libertarianism to forcefully take away the bomb because it poses a risk?

Hahaha wow. This is way blown out of proportion.