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Atheism destroyed with a question
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 RE: Atheism destroyed with a question
February 1, 2014 at 9:40 am
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2014 at 9:40 am by LostLocke.)
It's obvious the universe is fine tuned because of the massive amount of life we find just in our own galactic backyard.
Oh, wait a sec....  (February 1, 2014 at 9:31 am)houseofcantor Wrote:(February 1, 2014 at 9:04 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Fine tuned universe my arse. Have they never heard of the gunslinger fallacy? No, you misheard 
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken." Sith code  ![[Image: 6khks.jpg]](https://i.imgflip.com/6khks.jpg) I'm so sick of this vapid fine tuning crap. You want to claim that? Fine, go out and show me how fucking easy it is to just exist in ninety five percent of the damn place.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (February 1, 2014 at 10:10 am)Esquilax Wrote: I'm so sick of this vapid fine tuning crap. You want to claim that? Fine, go out and show me how fucking easy it is to just exist in ninety five percent of the damn place.That, plus the fact that large chunks of our own damn planet aren't even 'fine tuned' for life.  (February 1, 2014 at 7:06 am)dsian Wrote: Raises some good point and makes me wonder why atheists reject the fine tuning of the universe. Because an all-powerful being would not be so constrained as to be forced to "fine-tune" anything. But it does raise an interesting question- if the creator was so exacting in his design of the universe and the laws of physics, why did he do such a colossally awful job when it came to making sentient beings?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould   (February 1, 2014 at 10:15 am)LostLocke Wrote:(February 1, 2014 at 10:10 am)Esquilax Wrote: I'm so sick of this vapid fine tuning crap. You want to claim that? Fine, go out and show me how fucking easy it is to just exist in ninety five percent of the damn place.That, plus the fact that large chunks of our own damn planet aren't even 'fine tuned' for life. This. About 70% of Earth is covered by water, many human habitats are deadly without proper protection, disease, other animals that can harm us, hell, we're not even safe in our own bodies! Fine tuning my ass! When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
(February 1, 2014 at 11:07 am)Kayenneh Wrote:(February 1, 2014 at 10:15 am)LostLocke Wrote: That, plus the fact that large chunks of our own damn planet aren't even 'fine tuned' for life. I actually counted those parts of earth in my initial post, which is actually more telling of how completely untuned this shit really is. And frankly, I think I agree with Napo too: 95% does seem like I lowballed it. 
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