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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 13, 2014 at 8:51 am
(February 13, 2014 at 8:43 am)jideoni charles Wrote: Neither science nor Faith cam prove the existence of God but commonsense.
Yeah, it's official. You are a dumb cunt. 
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 14, 2014 at 8:50 am
(February 13, 2014 at 8:51 am)Kayenneh Wrote: (February 13, 2014 at 8:43 am)jideoni charles Wrote: Neither science nor Faith cam prove the existence of God but commonsense.
Yeah, it's official. You are a dumb cunt.
You are shoemeistic!
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 14, 2014 at 8:54 am
Is that another term for cuddly?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 14, 2014 at 9:02 am
(February 14, 2014 at 8:54 am)Tonus Wrote: Is that another term for cuddly?
Not illuminating.
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 14, 2014 at 9:03 am
I'll bet she's cuddly, though.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 14, 2014 at 10:38 pm
(February 10, 2014 at 1:25 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You have to look within, and without as well I mean you have the fine tuning of the universe and the natural constants and that kind of thing as well if you look, and understand what you're looking at. Revelation wise there are different choices there but the Bible has a lot going for it despite some of the flaws you can certainly point out. As long as the source/inspiration for it was God the details and things they may have got wrong about certain things is a little academic, it's not a huge faith destroying deal.
So it's at least as much a matter of personal opinion as evidential fact?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Introducing The Universal Religion
February 14, 2014 at 10:39 pm
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 14, 2014 at 11:03 pm
Sorry to jump back a little here:
(February 11, 2014 at 8:46 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: (February 11, 2014 at 8:10 am)Alex K Wrote: and the burden of proof is on you.
You can't "prove God" and you can't prove your materialist philosophy either so it's a stalemate.
If you can't prove your god, and you know that, then it's game over. Thanks for playing.
See, it's like a courtroom scene. The accusation is "God exists". The defense asks you to prove it. You admit you can't, so the case ends there by being thrown out. You don't get to win the game by throwing the cards into the fire and pretending you were playing dice all along.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 15, 2014 at 8:43 am
Lets keep this courtroom thing going
In court, you are either judged guilty or not guilty. Not, guilty or innocent.
When a jury votes 'not guilty' it does not mean that the suspect is innocent. It does not mean that the suspect didn't do what he was accused of doing. It just means, that there wasn't enough evidence or the quality wasn't good enough to convict them on.
This is exactly the same thing with god. Put god as the suspect. He is being accused of existing. The atheist jury votes not guilty. god is not guilty of existing. This doesn't necessarily mean that the jury thinks he is innocent of existing (that he doesn't exist) the jury just doesn't think the quality of the evidence is good enough to convict him.
Hope that clears up any misconceptions about what most atheists, or at least I, think.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
February 15, 2014 at 10:08 am
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(February 15, 2014 at 8:43 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Lets keep this courtroom thing going
In court, you are either judged guilty or not guilty. Not, guilty or innocent.
When a jury votes 'not guilty' it does not mean that the suspect is innocent.
Ah, but what about "innocent until proven guilty?"
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