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Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
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(February 5, 2014 at 1:54 pm)Chad32 Wrote: That would be the end of the human race, but not existence. There are other planets, and other life. It all goes forward. Technically there's no such thing as nothing, because even space is full of molecules. Eventually the universe itsself may collapse, but that won't even be the end because a new universe will be created when space expands again.

The universe will not collapse on itself therefore it will not expand again. It continues to expand out and will be cold in trillions of years. It will be dead.

(February 5, 2014 at 2:02 pm)Faith No More Wrote: If it is all pointless, how come you haven't killed yourself yet?

People have a sense of survival that came from evolution.
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#12
RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
For all we know that is like saying that a bubble in a froth of bubbles will one day pop. There is no justification for thinking the end of us or our universe is the end of everything. It is just the end of us. No great news flash there.
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#13
RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
Yeah, it's a pity really, but what can you do, eh? Tell me something I didn't know.

It is very tempting to only assign value to things which last forever, and I am prone to this kind of thinking, but it is quite fallacious. The circumstance that it last forever would, on the face of it, not add one iota of meaning to life. Why would it, after all?

(February 5, 2014 at 1:04 pm)x2theone2x Wrote: We as organic lifeforms will cease to function. We will die and lose our consciousness, and then we shall reemerge ourselves into the state of darkness and nothingness we were experiencing(or not experiencing) an infinite amount of foreseeable time prior before we were. The actions we perform during our life, as well as the thoughts, are universally pointless. We'll have no recollection or feeling of said actions or thoughts after death. We won't be able to look upon them or contemplate them. The memory's of your actions, feelings, and emotions will never come into play again, nor will you care if they do, because you are factually nothing. It's quite identical as if life never occurred for any organic to begin with. We as organics all share something, equality in prenatal, and equality in death; being able to do nothing, and being nothing. ( more specific you'll still be energy of some sort, disassociation of matter, etc.)
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#14
RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
(February 5, 2014 at 1:04 pm)x2theone2x Wrote: We as organic lifeforms will cease to function. We will die and lose our consciousness, and then we shall reemerge ourselves into the state of darkness and nothingness we were experiencing(or not experiencing) an infinite amount of foreseeable time prior before we were. The actions we perform during our life, as well as the thoughts, are universally pointless. We'll have no recollection or feeling of said actions or thoughts after death. We won't be able to look upon them or contemplate them. The memory's of your actions, feelings, and emotions will never come into play again, nor will you care if they do, because you are factually nothing. It's quite identical as if life never occurred for any organic to begin with. We as organics all share something, equality in prenatal, and equality in death; being able to do nothing, and being nothing. ( more specific you'll still be energy of some sort, disassociation of matter, etc.)

If you really think you are nothing now because you think you will be nothing when you inevitably die, why work to keep yourself alive?
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#15
RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
He who dies with the most toys - wins.

The BJ alone is worth living for, IMHO.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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#16
RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
I always thought he who got the most pleasure out of his toys while he was alive won.
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#17
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(February 5, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Chuck Wrote: I always thought he who joy the most pleasure out of his toys while he was alive won.

Shit - that is better than my version - consider it stolen.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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#18
RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
(February 5, 2014 at 1:04 pm)x2theone2x Wrote: We as organic lifeforms will cease to function. We will die and lose our consciousness, and then we shall reemerge ourselves into the state of darkness and nothingness we were experiencing(or not experiencing) an infinite amount of foreseeable time prior before we were. The actions we perform during our life, as well as the thoughts, are universally pointless. We'll have no recollection or feeling of said actions or thoughts after death. We won't be able to look upon them or contemplate them. The memory's of your actions, feelings, and emotions will never come into play again, nor will you care if they do, because you are factually nothing. It's quite identical as if life never occurred for any organic to begin with. We as organics all share something, equality in prenatal, and equality in death; being able to do nothing, and being nothing. ( more specific you'll still be energy of some sort, disassociation of matter, etc.)

It is not worthless to me now. Nor is it worthless to my friends and family now.

Every car you or I have ever or will ever own will some day be crushed at a junkyard, and rust into oblivion.

Does that mean that right now, while you own it, is worthless?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
(February 5, 2014 at 2:20 pm)KUSA Wrote: People have a sense of survival that came from evolution.

And people demonstrate every day that that instinct can be overridden.

It seems to me that if the OP was as wholeheartedly convinced of his/her own worthlessness as he/she is attempting to portray him/herself, suicide would be the only logical conclusion.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#20
RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
And people wonder why I think philosophy is useless?

Confusedhock:
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