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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 8:10 am
(February 11, 2014 at 8:09 pm)KUSA Wrote: So when Jesus comes back we can just lock his ass up.
They did worse to him the first time around.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 10:07 am
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(February 12, 2014 at 8:15 am)truthBtold Wrote: And u know this because its written in a fairytale book. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence which Christianity lacks!!
We have an extraordinary universe/existence/life and God is a suitable extraordinary explanation for the extraordinary existence we know exists. If there is an extraordinary God that created an extraordinary universe you can have an extraordinary revelation from God to his extraordinary creatures which then will have an extraordinary effect. Boom, there you go, everything ties up into a complete package of extraordinaryness.
(February 12, 2014 at 9:08 am)EvolutionKills Wrote: Fortunately if he does come back, I've got something that will keep him down for good this time...
The idea is no-one is going to be kept down, or at least there is a way of avoiding it because you the eternal fullness of life given to you as a gift from God.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 10:20 am
(February 12, 2014 at 10:07 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: We have an extraordinary universe/existence/life and God is a suitable extraordinary explanation for the extraordinary existence we know exists. If there is an extraordinary God that created an extraordinary universe you can have an extraordinary revelation from God to his extraordinary creatures which then will have an extraordinary effect. Boom, there you go, everything ties up into a complete package of extraordinaryness.
Except we don't have an extraordinary explanation for where this extraordinary god came from. You're just pushing the question back a step and creating any even grander problem to explain.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 10:22 am
(February 12, 2014 at 10:20 am)Rahul Wrote: Except we don't have an extraordinary explanation for where this extraordinary god came from.
The extraordinary thing about God is that he is eternal and was never brought into existence. Therefore you won't need that explanation.
Quote: You're just pushing the question back a step and creating any even grander problem to explain.
God is the grand explanation for a grand problem not a problem that needs to be explained.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 10:24 am
(February 11, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: The idea is Christ supposed to free people into a direct relationship with God, and so free you from sin, death and all that business. So it's not technically supposed to enslave anyone.
Nice of him to offer to 'free' humanity from a bad deal that he imposed on us before we were even born. That's what any sane person would want, to spend eternity with the person who screwed them over for no other reason than that he could.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 10:33 am
The universe is only evidence of a universe. There is no evidence for any god that has existed throughout history. The book that people wrote is a claim. No more evidence than books written about older religions. We might as well be worshiping any deity that's claimed to have created the universe, if its existence is evidence for creator gods. There's no way to narrow it down just by looking at existence.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 10:35 am
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(February 12, 2014 at 10:24 am)Tonus Wrote: Nice of him to offer to 'free' humanity from a bad deal that he imposed on us before we were even born.
You don't impose freewill on anyone you allow them to have it.
Quote: That's what any sane person would want, to spend eternity with the person who screwed them over for no other reason than that he could.
God has given you the freedom screw to yourself over. What grace from God does is restore you back to the perfection required for your immortal life. If you lived for only say 80 years the flaws you have or may develop won't likely be that big a deal but if you expand this over an eternity of existence.
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RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 10:39 am
I'd rather not be twisted into what Yahweh thinks is the perfect servant. Thanks.