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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 16, 2014 at 2:07 pm
(February 15, 2014 at 11:56 pm)catman Wrote: If the Bible is the word of God then why is it only focused on one specific region of the entire planet? Was there nothing going on outside of the Middle East worth mentioning? The Han Dynasty maybe? Yahweh got up late the morning they were dividing up parts of the world that they could influence. Is it any wonder that in the OT he seems so angry? Other gods got entire continents and relatively advanced civilizations to play with, Yahweh got some desert backwater miles away from the places with a decent bar.
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 2:39 pm
Would you have accepted the Bible as the word of God if it had included historical information about every (or at least more than one) region/civilization? I ask this because your argument assumes that the word of God would focus on more than one specific region of the entire planet and since the Bible doesn't, it can't be the real word of God. Is this what you believe?
(February 15, 2014 at 11:56 pm)catman Wrote: If the Bible is the word of God then why is it only focused on one specific region of the entire planet?
It's focused on one specific people group, the region is simply dependent upon where the people were living.
(February 15, 2014 at 11:56 pm)catman Wrote: Was there nothing going on outside of the Middle East worth mentioning? The Han Dynasty maybe?
The purpose of the Bible is the revelation of God. God choose to reveal Himself through a certain blood line. Had He choose a different line perhaps you'd hear more about the Han Dynasty. Although then you'd still be asking the same initial question just swapping regions.
(February 15, 2014 at 11:56 pm)catman Wrote: (P.S - the same holds true for all religious texts)
Mormon religious texts speak of the distant star or planet Kolob where they claim god lives. That's pretty far outside the Middle East.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 2:51 pm
According to Jewish tradition God went around all of the nations asking them if they wanted to accept his commandments.
Everyone said no.
When he got to the Jews they asked "How much?"
He said free, so they immediately agreed to take 10.
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 2:54 pm
(February 17, 2014 at 2:39 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Would you have accepted the Bible as the word of God if it had included historical information about every (or at least more than one) region/civilization?
No. Internal consistency means nothing. Spiderman lives in New York city, does spiderman exist?
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 4:32 pm
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Why do you think he picked just one bloodline to reveal himself to?
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm
(February 17, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: High orangebox
Why do you think he picked just one bloodline to reveal himself to?
Humanly, Jesus could only be descended through one bloodline. When the messiah arrived he was revealed to Jews first, then to the rest of the world. Why he chose the Jews? Who knows.
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 8:24 pm
(February 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Lek Wrote: Why he chose the Jews?
It doesn't make a lot of sense to invent a story like this and not place your own people at the center of it.
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 8:57 pm
(February 17, 2014 at 8:24 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: (February 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Lek Wrote: Why he chose the Jews?
It doesn't make a lot of sense to invent a story like this and not place your own people at the center of it.
The story of the Jews as the chosen people in bible was written long before the birth of Jesus. Jesus was the one they were speaking of.
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 9:02 pm
(February 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Lek Wrote: (February 17, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: High orangebox
Why do you think he picked just one bloodline to reveal himself to?
Humanly, Jesus could only be descended through one bloodline. When the messiah arrived he was revealed to Jews first, then to the rest of the world. Why he chose the Jews? Who knows.
But the idea was wondered about even in antiquity.
Quote:78. Again, if God, like Jupiter in the comedy, should, on awaking from a lengthened slumber, desire to rescue the human race from evil, why did He send this Spirit of which you speak into one corner (of the earth)? He ought to have breathed it alike into many bodies, and have sent them out into all the world. Now the comic poet, to cause laughter in the theatre, wrote that Jupiter, after awakening, despatched Mercury to the Athenians and Lacedaemonians; but do not you think that you have made the Son of God more ridiculous in sending Him to the Jews?
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RE: Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?
February 17, 2014 at 9:17 pm
(February 17, 2014 at 8:57 pm)Lek Wrote: The story of the Jews as the chosen people in bible was written long before the birth of Jesus. Jesus was the one they were speaking of.
Right, that's my point. Jews wrote the Bible and, entirely by coincidence, Jews were God's chosen people. It would be kind of silly to make that assertion and then subvert it by not placing themselves at the center of the rest of the story, especially when they were already pushing their luck reinventing the bloodthirsty and brutal god of the Jews into the meek and compassionate savior of the Christians.
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