Heroin overdose cure: It exists, but how do you get it?

[Faith No More]

The best part is you have ignored that I have repeatedly stated that I opposed to coercive eugenics. I think that rather the government should offer large cash incentives to those deemed degenerate if they agree to be sterilized.

Well, then I'm wishing I had a million dollars to offer you.

ETA: Damn, CD beat me to it.

[EgoRaptor]

The best part is you have ignored that I have repeatedly stated that I opposed to coercive eugenics. I think that rather the government should offer large cash incentives to those deemed degenerate if they agree to be sterilized.

Well, then I'm wishing I had a million dollars to offer you.

ETA: Damn, CD beat me to it.

I think that rather the government should offer large cash incentives to those deemed degenerate if they agree to be sterilized.

Will you take a check?

Not for me you imbeciles! This would be for degenerates! I am a highly intelligent person.

[Jackalope]

Not for me you imbeciles! This would be for degenerates! I am a highly intelligent person.

That's for the state to decide, Komrade.

[Aractus]

There was also going to be a needle exchange close to my town, but that shit got shot down because "OH MY GOD THE HEROIN ADDICTS WILL SHOOT UP BEHIND THE BUILDING" or something.

Why should people with a self-inflicted problem be given free needles while diabetics have to buy theirs?

[Creed of Heresy]

Haha, so now I'm belligerent and obnoxious. Have fun, Creed. I'm not exactly sure what you are threatening here, but you can say whatever the fuck you want to me. You went and made this completely personal out of nowhere. If you think I'm even remotely intimidated by that post, you're as stupid as you sound. Go fuck yourself, homey.

Oh wow.

I didn't realize you were actually this incapable of debating, I thought people just called you a bitch cuz you got feisty or something.

I didn't realize it was because you enter into topics just to be a bitch and then get pissy and insulting and condescending when people express why your opinion is fucking garbage. Ya basically came in here to descend amongst others and you thought you were going to be dispensing some real words of bitchin'-fuckin'-wisdom by saying the obvious; that addicts and mental health patients should continue to receive a lower priority for treatment than non-addicts and non-mental-health patients, and that everyone would nod sagely and pat you on the ass cuz you're Mrs. AtheistForums or something, right? Not me, hood-rat [werd, homey?]. Your post was irrelevant, your entire presence in this thread so far in fact has served as little more than an incredibly obnoxious, grating distraction from the ACTUAL topics being discussed.

"You're as stupid as you sound?"

Really? I'm not the one who just completely ignored an entire post to continue being a bitch when I just told you to back the fuck off on the topic you're talking about because YOU are making it personal. I did not threaten, I warned. For a published writer, you sure seem to struggle to understand key differences in important words. I WARNED you to back off because it was hitting too close to home.

But what do you do? You then start insulting me directly. You call me stupid. Do tell me, Shelly, what bitchin' fuckin' words of brilliance have you provided so far here, huh? Cuz I don't see a fucking thing.

One person said fuck em let em die. Personal life experience should not have anything to do with the argument, obviously. It just makes idiots crazy to apply their own biases to the debate.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THE ARGUMENT IS!! The actual argument that was taking place was that addicts shouldn't be left to die in the dirt, you took it somewhere else, then bitch me out when you don't understand why I am taking it in the context of the current discussion and not some random point that came up that wasn't even being discussed! Of course there's going to be personal biases! We're talking about shit that a lot of us have gone through! Of course we're going to apply our personal experiences to this! Of course personal biases are being applied! It's something that, get this, HAPPENS ON A SUBJECTIVE BASIS. There is no bias or unbias. You've either had experience with addiction or you don't, and if you don't, you don't get to fucking make judgment of people who don't.

Not you, and definitely not Ego, whose opinions I am finding are not so much inhuman and disgusting as much as they are just plain as ignorant of reality as most Christians are of the content of their bible, except to a far stronger, contemptible, and more brain-numbingly-retarded degree.

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I am a highly intelligent person.

You know, the louder you say it, the more we realize you're desperately trying to fool yourself.

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Should we shuffle all people who harm themselves due to controllable factors to the back of the line? Because, I don't ever want to be the person who makes that decision.

Yes, we should.

Please present your qualifications for making that decision. Applicants require photo ID, second form of ID, and must be 18 years of age or older.

Not to downplay your experience, but opium is quite weak compared to other drugs like heroin, especially if you're mainlining it. The single use addiction is very possible under the right circumstances, like the person having a genetic predisposition to addiction.

And I think that only people that have never made mistakes in their lives should be allowed to use the "you did it to yourself, so you don't deserve any help" argument.

No, but anyone who has not majorly fucked up & gotten addicted is sitting in a seat of judgement to those that have.

Also, you may notice I have bolded a part about people who are genetically predisposed to addiction. Let those weak individuals die off, the world will be a better place for it.

Salute your flag, you nazi fuck.

One giant ad hom. Nice job man.

Hey, I only give people what they're worth.

I especially liked the whole woe is me thing.

Considering what comes next, this is hilarious...

Also, I have suffered from depression my whole life. People like you are everything that is wrong with this world. Weak & expecting everyone else to take the blame for you mistakes. Suck it up.

Oh woe is you, are you really that so far up your own ass that you think your piddly little angsty emo bullshit compares to anything I've gone through? Please, little boy, don't make me laugh. You're like a maggot squirming around in pig-shit compared to me in terms of who actually holds the authority on what addiction causes, and what treating it can lead to. You're not worth the words I'm typing, but luckily for you there's plenty of people on this thread who I think are worth expressing my opinions to on this thread, and this is more for their benefit than anything, but I gotta admit, it feels good laughing this hard. I've been hard-pressed for optimism, but man, your extreme case of Unwarranted Self-Importance Syndrome (USIS) is hands down one of the funniest fucking things I've seen on this forum, and given how batshit crazy this place is, THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING.

I care that the strong are forced to carry the weak because I don't want a society held back by the meek. The strong should not have to carry the weak, if the weak cannot carry themselves than let them fall.

On this, we agree.

When you fall, I shouldn't have to carry you. So, we agree then. I won't have to carry you.

You know what works even better? Letting them die. That saves a lot more money.

No, actually, if you had read the link, you would know that NOT treating them and letting them die is actually far more expensive. Pay attention, dipshit, school is in session.

Notice the bolded part, ya that is exactly what I am saying. Suck it up!

Aww, someone's projecting, isn't that precious? Mommy and daddy's little nazi darling wishes he had some valid reasons for feeling sad so he would feel like he has a reason to be strong if he overcomes it. But he doesn't, because his world is full of pillows and cushions, and he knows he's a weakling who, when he goes into the world, will be getting fed to the wolves.

You won't even move out of your parents' basement I bet.

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Frankly, I'm calling troll on Ego. Anyone else agree with me?

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Well, you would be wrong then. I do think addicts need and should get help, but never in the stead of someone who is not ill through their own vices. Additionally, most problems addicts have can be solved by stopping. If it doesn't involve getting you to quit, I'm not helping. Maybe if you weren't so predisposed to feel the way you do, you might realize that objectivity is much more helpful than enabling. I imagine if you have lost someone to addiction, you would have already learnt that lesson.

I agree with this. Which again makes me wonder why the hell we're arguing...

In order to be treated, you need to want to be treated. If someone doesn't want to help themselves, though...there's not a lot you can do for them.

But then...I didn't want to be treated. My rehabilitation was involuntary. But it got me off the opioids. If it hadn't been imposed on me, I wouldn't be here. I probably wouldn't be alive, actually. So. Take that however you want. I'm just saying. It does actually cut me pretty deep when people are casually talking about cutting people off and leaving them to wither and rot, because I know if the people who had sent me into rehab had actually thought like that? I wouldn't be alive. It basically sounds to me like you are saying you wouldn't care if I was dead, in a very blunt, flippant manner. From Egoraptor I couldn't give a fuck less, but you, I've known at least fairly well here. Starting to see why I was finding it personal? See why I was warning you to stop?

[FreeTony]

Not for me you imbeciles! This would be for degenerates! I am a highly intelligent person.

Give you claim to have depression and are clearly delusional, you could be one of the ones being sterilized under your own rules.

[Ryantology]

Not for me you imbeciles! This would be for degenerates! I am a highly intelligent person.

You suffer from depression which is indicative of a mental impairment, and I have more than enough experience with depression to say that you're suboptimal. Please report to the nearest 'decontamination' facility for your 'payment'.

Edit: Beaten to it.

[Esquilax]

Not for me you imbeciles! This would be for degenerates! I am a highly intelligent person.

Isn't it interesting how, without even thinking about it, you put yourself in the "strong" category?

[Psykhronic]

There was also going to be a needle exchange close to my town, but that shit got shot down because "OH MY GOD THE HEROIN ADDICTS WILL SHOOT UP BEHIND THE BUILDING" or something.

Why should people with a self-inflicted problem be given free needles while diabetics have to buy theirs?

Diabetics should not have to buy theirs either. The needle exchange could easily cater towards anyone who uses a needle, not just heroin addicts.

[Aractus]

The retail cost of a pack of needles/syringes is typically works out at around 50 cents each. The typical cost of a hit is anywhere up from $20 (and even as much as $50 just for a tenth here in Australia). Are you really saying that addicts need to be given a 50c needle because they can afford a $50+ hit, but can't afford a new 50c needle??