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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 3:48 pm
(March 15, 2014 at 3:24 pm)professor Wrote: Actually Esquilax, I view these disparate examples as having the exact same spiritual source.
What, movies and the crackpot theories of new agers? Doesn't it seem like a bad sign when the things you have to point to as examples of your god's rapture are either fictional or crazy?
Quote:As for the attributes of children, sure, there are things we want to jettison about them, but in the context, (and some translations use the word- trusting) it would be child-likeness that is recommended.
An overabundance of trust is precisely what's wrong with the idea of being childlike before god; surely you understand what this looks like from the outside, when a religion prizes not asking questions and going with the flow over critical thinking?
Quote:And Kay, the polar opposite of your supposition is what will come, because when we go Up- the devil comes Down.
And when he does, I guarantee you that us rational atheists will pretty quickly have an action plan drawn up to present to the guy. Because at that point, where god sics the devil on us... that shit's an act of war. We will have a slideshow to demonstrate exactly where he should direct his ire.
It's self defense when someone much more powerful than you has panned out to be consistently trying to kill you, after all.
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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 4:15 pm
Well Esq, I am somewhat crazy, just got back from a bike ride, it's cloudy, windy and 37 degrees out, potholes all over the place, rode 8 miles, only a nut would be out there to get exercise.
The examples I posted were intentionally from non-Christian sources.
You probably know the scripture verses that speak of the Departure anyway.
Yeah, from the outside I agree.
But, it is what it is. (where did that saying come from anyway?)
The thing is, when the devil comes down, he will dwell in a particular person who already is the pinnacle of world power.
It was said that he (the antichrist) will be allowed to have authority to rule for a set period of time.
The wrath that the Rapture folks escape, is directed at wicked who (are now) and who will be running things after the catching away.
By the way, there are 4 views of the Rapture:
No such thing
Pre- tribulation
Post- tribulation
Pan- trib (it will all pan out)
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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 5:38 pm
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Quote:The thing is, when the devil comes down, he will dwell in a particular person who already is the pinnacle of world power.
Could be....
Actually nah. If you want the pinnacle of world power, maybe this guy...
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm
Jacob, are those flies heading to the first culprit?
If so, you have just found "Lord of the flies".
Called "Beelzebub" in the bible.
They do seem to like Mr. Obama.
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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 6:04 pm
(March 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm)professor Wrote: Jacob, are those flies heading to the first culprit?
If so, you have just found "Lord of the flies".
Called "Beelzebub" in the bible.
They do seem to like Mr. Obama.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 6:43 pm
You were joking.
But the white house staff were not joking a couple of years ago, when being over- run with flies in their place of duties.
And flies landing on this guy's face when interviewed, or dive bombing him on camera.
Often.
When was the last time a fly landed on your face?
Has one ever landed on your face?
Not me.
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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 6:51 pm
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(March 15, 2014 at 6:43 pm)professor Wrote: You were joking.
But the white house staff were not joking a couple of years ago, when being over- run with flies in their place of duties.
And flies landing on this guy's face when interviewed, or dive bombing him on camera.
Often.
When was the last time a fly landed on your face?
Has one ever landed on your face?
Not me.
Summer. They're everywhere, and they're attracted to any moisture on the body. If the bright lights on him made him glisten with sweat at all, they would do that.
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Re: RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 7:04 pm
(March 15, 2014 at 4:15 pm)professor Wrote: By the way, there are 4 views of the Rapture:
No such thing
Pre- tribulation
Post- tribulation
Pan- trib (it will all pan out)
You religious nuts can't even agree if or when you will be abducted by jesus.
You are lost in the sauce.
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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 7:20 pm
Hi Kusa, us Rapture-,centric nuts consider it to be an elopement.
In the Jewish tradition the groom comes in the middle of the night with a group of his friends, to call his betrothed (already committed to/ engaged) fiance' to come to him from her house.
The groom, formerly had to build her a house/ dwelling and could only go to get her after his construction was approved by his father.
Thus, when Jesus was asked about WHEN He would come back, He said, "Only the Father knows". So there is a controversy about when.
I go with, "Because you kept the word of My patience- I will keep you FROM the hour of testing that will come upon the whole earth."
Children are innocent by means of immaturity, so they also will be kept from the nasty time ahead.
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RE: When the Rapture comes- all the children leave
March 15, 2014 at 7:32 pm
Quote:What would it be like to have no little kids around?
Like a retirement community.
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