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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Bittersmart Wrote: discipulus Wrote:After. It works like any other relationship.
After. Okay. So which parts of the Bible made you a believer after reading them? I ask because I've read the Bible, too, and it had the opposite effect on me.
As for your person relationship working as any other relationship, I have to disagree. Other relationships comprise of regular people with corporeal bodies. How does a relationship with a deity work?
The Bible did not make me a believer. My relationship with Christ is similar to the relationship that you have with your best friend.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm)discipulus Wrote: (March 19, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Bittersmart Wrote: After. Okay. So which parts of the Bible made you a believer after reading them? I ask because I've read the Bible, too, and it had the opposite effect on me.
As for your person relationship working as any other relationship, I have to disagree. Other relationships comprise of regular people with corporeal bodies. How does a relationship with a deity work?
The Bible did not make me a believer. My relationship with Christ is similar to the relationship that you have with your best friend.
So what DID make you a believer? HOW did you form a relationship? Because if it's anything like a human relationship (which I still doubt), you have to decide to go into it.
As for it being the same as the relationship I have with my best friend, how do you make that comparison? I go out with my friend. I call them on the phone. We have long conversations about all sorts of things and laugh together at bad jokes. We can touch each other. As far as I know, people don't do this with deities.
So, specifically, what does you relationship with Jesus entail?
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 2:03 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm)discipulus Wrote: The Bible did not make me a believer. My relationship with Christ is similar to the relationship that you have with your best friend.
So you go down the pub for a few pints with Jesus? You would think he has better things to do....
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 2:22 pm
(March 18, 2014 at 8:53 pm)professor Wrote: Deidre, you remarked that my description for the most part describes religion.
Good call.
You have heard: If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck and quacks like a duck- it is probably a duck.
Except with convergent evolution it could be some kind of lizard.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 2:22 pm
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2014 at 2:23 pm by discipulus.)
(March 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm)Bittersmart Wrote: (March 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm)discipulus Wrote: The Bible did not make me a believer. My relationship with Christ is similar to the relationship that you have with your best friend.
So what DID make you a believer? HOW did you form a relationship? Because if it's anything like a human relationship (which I still doubt), you have to decide to go into it.
As for it being the same as the relationship I have with my best friend, how do you make that comparison? I go out with my friend. I call them on the phone. We have long conversations about all sorts of things and laugh together at bad jokes. We can touch each other. As far as I know, people don't do this with deities.
So, specifically, what does you relationship with Jesus entail?
Christ made me a believer. He had made it known to me that He wanted to have a relationship with me and I finally asked Jesus to save me and come into my life. It was a decision I personally made.
I spend most of my day hanging out with Jesus, talking to Him, laughing with Him, asking Him things, crying about things etc etc. With regards to touching Him, each time I, in His Name, touch one created in His Image it is as if I am touching Him.
So it seems that in at least several ways my relationship with Jesus is similar to your relationship with your best friend.
(March 19, 2014 at 2:03 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (March 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm)discipulus Wrote: The Bible did not make me a believer. My relationship with Christ is similar to the relationship that you have with your best friend.
So you go down the pub for a few pints with Jesus? You would think he has better things to do....
No. I do not frequent pubs.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 2:32 pm
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(March 19, 2014 at 2:22 pm)discipulus Wrote: Christ made me a believer. He had made it known to me that He wanted to have a relationship with me and I finally asked Jesus to save me and come into my life. It was a decision I personally made.
I spend most of my day hanging out with Jesus, talking to Him, laughing with Him, asking Him things, crying about things etc etc. With regards to touching Him, each time I, in His Name, touch one created in His Image it is as if I am touching Him.
So it seems that in at least several ways my relationship with Jesus is similar to your relationship with your best friend.
This sounds like you have met someone masquerading as jesus and making you "touch" him, call 911 now.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 2:32 pm
Discipulus, your dishonest tactics are showing. You largely disregarded (no, completely disregarded) everything that Popeye's pappy said, simply because you await him to substantiate the first of his claims. Fine, but why have you been off the hook for asserting without evidence that there is a god, and, most recently, that you have a relationship with Jesus Christ? I think you owe us an explanation with some solid evidence to back you up on this.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm
Quote: No. I do not frequent pubs.
I knew there was something off about you!
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm
(March 19, 2014 at 2:22 pm)discipulus Wrote: (March 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm)Bittersmart Wrote: So what DID make you a believer? HOW did you form a relationship? Because if it's anything like a human relationship (which I still doubt), you have to decide to go into it.
As for it being the same as the relationship I have with my best friend, how do you make that comparison? I go out with my friend. I call them on the phone. We have long conversations about all sorts of things and laugh together at bad jokes. We can touch each other. As far as I know, people don't do this with deities.
So, specifically, what does you relationship with Jesus entail?
Christ made me a believer. He had made it known to me that He wanted to have a relationship with me and I finally asked Jesus to save me and come into my life. It was a decision I personally made.
HOW did he make it known to you that he wanted you to have a relationship with him? Did this happen in your head, or....?
Quote:I spend most of my day hanging out with Jesus, talking to Him, laughing with Him, asking Him things, crying about things etc etc.
Does he do any of these back to you? Do you hear him laugh? Do you hear him cry?
Quote: With regards to touching Him, each time I, in His Name, touch one created in His Image it is as if I am touching Him.
Sooo, no actual touching?
Quote:So it seems that in at least several ways my relationship with Jesus is similar to your relationship with your best friend.
Only if Jesus is actually reciprocating. Otherwise, it seems awfully one-sided. I could have the same relationship with a pillow.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 19, 2014 at 2:45 pm
(March 17, 2014 at 11:09 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: A Christian in good faith can't fully embrace evolution without turning a blind eye to certain major tenets of their faith.
Not true. That's a position of ignorance.
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