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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
March 22, 2014 at 3:53 am
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Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
March 22, 2014 at 8:37 am
(March 21, 2014 at 2:15 am)tor Wrote: ![[Image: 11321_o.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=stream1.gifsoup.com%2Fwebroot%2Fanimatedgifs%2F11321_o.gif)
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
March 22, 2014 at 11:09 am
If you want to shut them up tell them to show you their god or a real miracle like an amputee growing a new limb. She won't be able to do it then tell her to put up or shut up.
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
March 22, 2014 at 8:56 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 4:31 am)Zid Wrote: (March 21, 2014 at 4:21 am)tor Wrote: LoL so you want her to shup up but don't want her to go away. What do you want dominate her?
Of course not I want what every atheist wants, you know to make her feel bad, like a fool and frustrated because I don't care about her god, and she has no evidence to convince me. Just tell her that the bible is the claim, not the evidence for the claim, and to debate this properly, you need to use external items instead of internal for the answers.
What she is obviously doing is not following the rules. Here is how she would 'prove' unicorns using her same religious logic:
Unicorns are pink, therefore unicorns exist.
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
March 22, 2014 at 8:57 pm
Ignore forever.
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
March 25, 2014 at 2:15 pm
(March 20, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Zid Wrote: Hi Zid new user.
I have one question what's the best way of shut up a theist, there's this woman who has been visiting a website that I have and constantly leaves religious messages. Now at first I responded what she wrote me (she quotes a verse of John from the Bible, and then told me that I should be grateful that Jesus sacrifices for me). But the she left message after message and every time I say something (not meant to her pretty much everything)she says something about religion back(I ain't kidding you can check if you want). So what should you recommend it?(personally I ain't gonna let her make me her own conversion experiment) Refute any idea until she gets tired? Go to her web page and leave her messages?(she has friends of her who visit her webpage that's why I haven't done it) Stop refuting her and tell her to …. up (well you know the idea) I don't know what would be the correct approach against what she said.
Ironically I told her that she's gonna quit this conversation with a certain sense of disappointment because I’m not gonna change my mind, y[/font]ou know like pretty much all theist does.(I wouldn't have told her that, I think that's was what made her to keep going)
I'd start by explaining the documentary theory of biblical authorship, quote some good scholars. Then explain the rampant forgery in the early church like mark 16. That should be a good start.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
April 1, 2014 at 9:46 pm
YOU
GOTTA BE
KIDDING ME
Okay I'm sick and tired of this girl. I mean how can she be so ashhh (I'm afraid that by using the wrong words I might gett banned). I tried private messages, I tried comments, I tried everything Nevertheless She still tries to save me, So hurray for me I have a stalker ![[Image: 7f5341cc.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.cute-factor.com%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fonion%2F7f5341cc.gif) (And no Im not banning her I'M NOT GONNA BE HIDING FROM OTHER PEOPLE BELIEFS THEIST DO THAT!!! NOT US)
Quote:You say I try to change your thoughts, and I am disrespecting your beliefs and contradicting myself. I am not trying to change your thoughts, I am doing what I said I was - spreading the Word. No contradiction there. And it is not in disrespect that I do it... if you felt so, you would not answer me in the way you have. You would not want to have a DISCUSSION with me, if you really felt I was being disrespectful.
OK. That said, let's move on.
I don't exactly understand your position about "does God exist/where did we come from"... do you believe in evolution? And yes, you came from "your parents", but where did "your parents" come from? And I - who am a bit of a science nerd - have never actually heard evidence that disproves anything about the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, or even the Flood. If you could please provide that, I will answer your... concerns... accordingly, if I can.
And as for the rest of the argument, I guess it just all boils down to the nature of God Himself. You say He is bipolar and homophobic, may I just point out that Jesus was the most tolerant, non-prejudiced example we could wish for? He ate and walked with the cast-off - lepers, prostitutes, etc. He tried to reach them, as He tries to reach us all. The "correct" people, who really were the intolerant ones, the discriminatory ones, hated Him. They had Him killed. That's why He died. It's His perfect life, and his Resurrection, that saves us from our sins, that gives us the hope of eternal life. I take the consequences of my sins, every day. And I would when I stand before God one day, but with Jesus's sacrifice, that isn't necessary. It's not that I - or any other Christian - is "happy" about Jesus dying for us and taking responsibility for our sins. It's that was His plan, and all we can do is either reject His offer of eternal life, as you do, or accept His saving grace.
As for why anyone would want eternal life, I will ask you this: would you also want eternal death? Eternal torture? That's the choice that exists. Which would YOU rather have?
And God did create the universe. He had people write the Bible for Him, but He could just as easily have created a divine book by miracle. Why does He have people carry His Word? He could do it Himself, you might say. But in truth, He is doing the work. He is going into people's hearts and lives, and making them whole. God is capable of anything.
Hope is purely spiritual. Whether or not you believe in God - or a god, for that matter - hope still comes from Him, and only Him. It is vital to human survival in a world of sin. Though you may deny it, I know you believe in hope and light, my friend. We all do.(She told me that an atheist can't see light or have hope)
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If anyone has an account in there I WILL REALLY APRECIATE A HELP WITH THIS ARROGANT.
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
April 1, 2014 at 10:02 pm
Duct tape his/her mouth?
That's all I got. :p
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
April 1, 2014 at 10:09 pm
(April 1, 2014 at 10:02 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Duct tape his/her mouth?
That's all I got. :p
This is a online debate so I can't touch her.
I'm not saying no to you're suggestion I'm only pointing out an obstacle.
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RE: What's the best way to shut up a theist?
April 1, 2014 at 10:42 pm
(April 1, 2014 at 10:09 pm)Zid Wrote: (April 1, 2014 at 10:02 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Duct tape his/her mouth?
That's all I got. :p
This is a online debate so I can't touch her.
I'm not saying no to you're suggestion I'm only pointing out an obstacle.
lol I was just kidding. 
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