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Can love exist without hate?
#61
RE: Can love exist without hate?
The sort of black and white thinking that leads to these arguments is both amusing and disappointing.

I don't need to know what hate is to understand love. I can understand love just fine by knowing what indifference is, as Rahul said.

Reality doesn't seem to be as binary as some would paint it.
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#62
RE: Can love exist without hate?
(March 23, 2014 at 11:45 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: The sort of black and white thinking that leads to these arguments is both amusing and disappointing.

I don't need to know what hate is to understand love. I can understand love just fine by knowing what indifference is, as Rahul said.

Reality doesn't seem to be as binary as some would paint it.

So god can make a world where everybody is happy and nobody needs to get tortured for 44 days to be lit on fire later? Nice.
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#63
RE: Can love exist without hate?
(March 23, 2014 at 8:00 pm)tor Wrote:
(March 23, 2014 at 7:59 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Why do you think that there is a god character?

Higher level animals display a range of emotions, including love and hate. Could those animals survive if they only had one emotion, such as love? How would they be able to kill their food if they were just restricted to the one emotion of love?

If humans only had the one emotion called love would it make them even more insane than most of them are now? Being able to experience and cope with the full range of emotions helps to maintain an animal's mental health.

Could god create world with good in it and without evil in it?

If you want a god entity, sure, give him or it whatever powers you want it to have. But why would you want a world in which animals have only one emotion?
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#64
RE: Can love exist without hate?
(March 23, 2014 at 3:54 pm)tor Wrote: Could god design a world where love exists and hate does not and people are happy and nobody is getting tortured for 44 days and lit on fire at the end?
World with happiness and without suffering?
Does logic permit such a thing?

Haven't you just described Heaven?
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#65
RE: Can love exist without hate?
(March 24, 2014 at 2:05 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:
(March 23, 2014 at 3:54 pm)tor Wrote: Could god design a world where love exists and hate does not and people are happy and nobody is getting tortured for 44 days and lit on fire at the end?
World with happiness and without suffering?
Does logic permit such a thing?

Haven't you just described Heaven?

Btw the dude told me this.
In this world nobody is safe from evil. If somebody decides to fuck you up he can do it.

HOWEVER.
In heaven you are safe from evil as long as you do nothing bad. As soon as you do something bad in heaven you are transferred to hell.

He didn't tell me what you must do in hell to be transferred to heaven.
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#66
RE: Can love exist without hate?
Lol.....
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#67
RE: Can love exist without hate?
Not to worry I'm sure today he will tell us more.
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#68
RE: Can love exist without hate?
(March 24, 2014 at 2:06 am)tor Wrote:
(March 24, 2014 at 2:05 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Haven't you just described Heaven?

Btw the dude told me this.
In this world nobody is safe from evil. If somebody decides to fuck you up he can do it.

HOWEVER.
In heaven you are safe from evil as long as you do nothing bad. As soon as you do something bad in heaven you are transferred to hell.

He didn't tell me what you must do in hell to be transferred to heaven.

Ask him for a scriptural reference. He can't provide one, because there is no scriptural support for that.

Not that I care, mind you. But the ensuing backflips can be entertaining to watch.
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#69
RE: Can love exist without hate?
I think he has his own christianity version.
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#70
RE: Can love exist without hate?
(March 24, 2014 at 2:37 am)tor Wrote: I think he has his own christianity version.

If that's the case, watch for moving goalposts and ad hoc apologetics. That type can be frustrating to talk with - determining what their position is can be like nailing jello to the wall.

I'm starting to remember why I got out the business of debating Christians about theology.
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