Atheists and Agnostics have God

[tor]

Hey fellas. The Bible pisses me off to. It is an embarrassment to believers... At least some of it...perhaps most of it is.

All I'm saying is this is what Scripture says. "God is love"...and the entire law is summed up like this "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" --Christ

What about hell and disbelief? If you are gonna throw away 90% of the bible why not throw away the whole thing.
As for the golden rule Confucius thought of it long before Jesus did.

[Phatt Matt s]

Jesus is a fucktillion times more influential than confusionce.

We don't know if anyone is in Hell. Jesus spoke of Hell but we don't know that people suffer for eternity there. Scripture says that Christ after the crucifixion preached to souls in prison (even the sinners that died in the flood during noahs time) and released them from their prison.

Revelation also talks about Hades and death releasing the dead that were captive there. I don't think 90% of the new testament is bad. I don't even find 50% of it to be terrible for humanity.

[Losty]

Ok so god is love? No. Either God is not love, or love is not real...

1 Corinthians 13:4-8
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others[, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.


Kind- killing, pillaging, rape, sacrificing children....

Envy- Nahum 1:2
2 The Lord is a jealous God,
filled with vengeance and rage.
He takes revenge on all who oppose him
and continues to rage against his enemies!

Boast-I am the great I am blah di dah

Easily angered- Romans 1:18 - For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Galatians 2:20 - I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 5:10 - For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Matthew 7:13-14 - Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: (Read More...)

2 Peter 2:9 - The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

[Phatt Matt s]

The old testament is fucked up. Some of the new Testament seems pretty fucked up to me as well.

Christ did away with a lot of what was in the old testament such as when He said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and he did away with the law of Moses and said the law is summed up in loving others as you love yourself.

Not saying I don't think Christ is full of shit from time to time, but he did away with the majority of the Bullshit in the OT.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Believe in love. That bastard is in your heart not the sky. The bastard that moves you to help others even though there is no pleasure or gain in it for you. That is what Scripture says we will be judged on is love. Put those Religious hypocrites to shame why don't you.

Since God doesn't love everyone why should the average person love everyone?

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The old testament is fucked up. Some of the new Testament seems pretty fucked up to me as well.

Christ did away with a lot of what was in the old testament such as when He said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and he did away with the law of Moses and said the law is summed up in loving others as you love yourself.

Not saying I don't think Christ is full of shit from time to time, but he did away with the majority of the Bullshit in the OT.

Jesus didn't do away with anything. He added more BS, such as thought crimes.

[tor]

Thunder who created hell and put people there?

[Rampant.A.I.]

Hey fellas. The Bible pisses me off to. It is an embarrassment to believers... At least some of it...perhaps most of it is.

All I'm saying is this is what Scripture says. "God is love"...and the entire law is summed up like this "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" --Christ

Rushworth Kidder notes that the Golden Rule can be found in the early contributions of Confucianism (551–479 BC). Kidder notes that this concept's framework appears prominently in many religions, including "Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism, and the rest of the world's major religions".[7] According to Greg M. Epstein, " 'do unto others' ... is a concept that essentially no religion misses entirely."[8] Simon Blackburn also states that the Golden Rule can be "found in some form in almost every ethical tradition".[9] All versions and forms of the proverbial Golden Rule have one aspect in common: they all demand that people treat others in a manner in which they themselves would like to be treated

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

[Senshi]

god = love? I'm saving my money next valentines day.

[fr0d0]

There is no god. End of story.

Proof please

Burden and all that

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

1 John 4
7

The above is a mistranslation. Angus Podgorny-Epstein, professor Emeritus of Glasgow School of Linguistics (Tel Aviv campus) published the little known (but nevertheless well-received) paper, 'Hebrew/Aramaic Issues Regarding The New Testament Which Occurred To Me During Breakfast' in the June 1954 Journal Of The Israeli Historical Documents, Quilting Bee and Terrorist Guild.

Among other issues (not the least of them finding .references to '...the onion milkshakes of the Canaanites' in the Old Testament), Dr. Podgorny-Epstein points out that while the Hebrew word for God is

האל; אליל

The Hebrew word for 'bacon' is

קותל חזיר

Dr. P-E's theory (never conclusively disproved) is that a scribe , while re-copying the fourth chapter of 1 John spilt a bit of his lunch on the page, and the error was never corrected. Thus, the passage from the OP should properly be read as:

7 whoever loves has been born of bacon and knows bacon. 8 Anyone who does not love does not know bacon, because bacon is love...

12 No one has ever seen bacon; if we love one another, bacon abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

16 bacon is love, and whoever abides in love abides in bacon, and bacon abides in him/her.

I hope this clears it up for you, TC.

Boru