Literal belief in the flood story

[Mystical]

good lord the comments on that one are retarded "Whales grew legs, that's how! Dumb evolutionists! Tee hee hee! DERP"

[archangle]

There was a flood. There is no reason to assume otherwise. Unless of course you have a limit understanding of human history or are like 6 months old. It may have even been the biggest they flood they ever saw.

But we need a world wide thing. snow ball earth fits, but that is as far as I would go. Maybe early in earth's history when there were little bits of land here and there.

but even before that discussion. We need some understanding as to why we are looking at the bible in such a anti-jesus like fashion. Jesus clearly taught against literal religion.

[orangebox21]

The problem is: the children. The whole notion is God was mad at the wicked people, so he killed them and their kids to make things right. Now, there's no way that the children who were sufficiently young would have been wicked, so why did he kill them?

The error in your argument/understanding lies in the above quote. Genesis 6:5 states: "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." This is the reason the flood was sent, to judge mankind who's hearts were only evil continually. Your statement claims that children would not have been wicked. God states that everyone on earth was evil continually.
If you assume the account of the flood to be true, which you have to make your argument, then you must assume that everyone on earth, all the imagination of the thoughts of their hearts was only evil continually (as it is part of the account).
Today there is a door much like the door to the ark. Walking through this door, like the ark, leads to salvation, an escape from the coming judgement. This door, like the ark, is a narrow door. This door is Jesus Christ.

[DarkHorse]

I'd rather face the coming judgement than walk through jesus christ. Why? It's NOT REAL. The only judgement is in your head.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Oh, is God coming back to kill more babies and drown more kittens if we don't come to Jesus?

[truthBtold]

The problem is: the children. The whole notion is God was mad at the wicked people, so he killed them and their kids to make things right. Now, there's no way that the children who were sufficiently young would have been wicked, so why did he kill them?

The error in your argument/understanding lies in the above quote. Genesis 6:5 states: "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." This is the reason the flood was sent, to judge mankind who's hearts were only evil continually. Your statement claims that children would not have been wicked. God states that everyone on earth was evil continually.
If you assume the account of the flood to be true, which you have to make your argument, then you must assume that everyone on earth, all the imagination of the thoughts of their hearts was only evil continually (as it is part of the account).
Today there is a door much like the door to the ark. Walking through this door, like the ark, leads to salvation, an escape from the coming judgement. This door, like the ark, is a narrow door. This door is Jesus Christ.

So now jesus is a door.. its amazing that Christians say what they feel is comfortable "jesus" or god.. jesus is the sun, the moon, a tree...Jesus is my sac, Jesus is the knotted up ass hair on my ass..

[Esquilax]

The error in your argument/understanding lies in the above quote. Genesis 6:5 states: "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." This is the reason the flood was sent, to judge mankind who's hearts were only evil continually. Your statement claims that children would not have been wicked. God states that everyone on earth was evil continually.
If you assume the account of the flood to be true, which you have to make your argument, then you must assume that everyone on earth, all the imagination of the thoughts of their hearts was only evil continually (as it is part of the account).

So what evil thoughts do babies think? I mean, a child isn't even self aware until like two, so your blanket, stupid generalization is just factually wrong to begin with...

[Mystical]

Well maybe god can see the future and just know those babies are evil. Fuck freewill.

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There was a flood. There is no reason to assume otherwise. Unless of course you have a limit understanding of human history or are like 6 months old. It may have even been the biggest they flood they ever saw.

But we need a world wide thing. snow ball earth fits, but that is as far as I would go. Maybe early in earth's history when there were little bits of land here and there.

but even before that discussion. We need some understanding as to why we are looking at the bible in such a anti-jesus like fashion. Jesus clearly taught against literal religion.

I propose that you back up your claim which is refuted by the scientific community a hundred fold, or be regarded as dumber than a six month old. Like for your snowball world theory I'd like you to show me human fossils from that time period. Should be easy-- finding evidence of mass deaths covered by a flood of rock and sediment, during that era. If you look at the fossil record I bet you'll conclude that you're an idiot just as I have.

[RobbyPants]

The error in your argument/understanding lies in the above quote. Genesis 6:5 states: "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." This is the reason the flood was sent, to judge mankind who's hearts were only evil continually. Your statement claims that children would not have been wicked. God states that everyone on earth was evil continually.
If you assume the account of the flood to be true, which you have to make your argument, then you must assume that everyone on earth, all the imagination of the thoughts of their hearts was only evil continually (as it is part of the account).
Today there is a door much like the door to the ark. Walking through this door, like the ark, leads to salvation, an escape from the coming judgement. This door, like the ark, is a narrow door. This door is Jesus Christ.

So I take it you don't buy into the "age of accountability" apologetics? Assuming a baby hasn't made a conscious effort to accept Jesus as his/her lord and savior, the baby goes to hell if it dies? Do you seriously think that children and babies need to be treated as adults when punishing them?

And even still, you haven't addressed the part of my OP where I asked why God couldn't have had Noah raise the children in a moral fashion. We know that children are impressionable and can be raised in a good or bad way, and it will influence how they turn out. If you are going to assert that they are wicked and nothing could be done, then I take it you do not believe in free will? Free will is the entire justification for the flood myth. You can't have it both ways. Either:

1) God could have taken steps to make sure the children were saved so they could be raised in a better way (remember, he went out of his way to magically solve all the things I listed in the OP), or

2) The children are incapable of being raised in a moral way and having it work. If that's the case, there is no free will.

There is no magical third option.

[Minimalist]

The problem is: the children. The whole notion is God was mad at the wicked people, so he killed them and their kids to make things right. Now, there's no way that the children who were sufficiently young would have been wicked, so why did he kill them?

The error in your argument/understanding lies in the above quote. Genesis 6:5 states: "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." This is the reason the flood was sent, to judge mankind who's hearts were only evil continually. Your statement claims that children would not have been wicked. God states that everyone on earth was evil continually.
If you assume the account of the flood to be true, which you have to make your argument, then you must assume that everyone on earth, all the imagination of the thoughts of their hearts was only evil continually (as it is part of the account).
Today there is a door much like the door to the ark. Walking through this door, like the ark, leads to salvation, an escape from the coming judgement. This door, like the ark, is a narrow door. This door is Jesus Christ.

And here you have the evidence which proves the OP correct.

This myth is stupidly contrived and terrible. When people accept it as true, they make some of the most creepy, and morally bankrupt excuses for God I have ever heard.

Xtians are creepy and morally bankrupt!