Literal belief in the flood story

[Alex K]

Here's your explanation: God fixed it by magic. Duh.

Next!

[KUSA]

As far as the children go... I think 150 years is enough time to warn your kids about a judgement.

Infants, toddlers, and other young children too? They wouldn't understand and if they did what the fuck are they gonna do build their own ark?

[Zen Badger]

You list these things as if the God that was powerful enough to flood the earth isn't powerful enough to bring plants back to life... The way that I see it is God didn't kill people, He warned them about a coming judgement. He didn't force people to get in the ark, it was their choice... Free will.

Now we have a judicial system, correct? If the law says that murderers will be punished by death sentence and the government didn't deliver the decree if they had caught a murderer then people would most likely revolt due to injustice.

God warned about a judgement. In fact they had 150 years to decide whether to get on the boat or not. Now if God would have never delivered that decree the wicked would probably become even more wicked and Noah and his family would also turn from God.

As far as the children go... I think 150 years is enough time to warn your kids about a judgement.

Where do you 150 years from?

His arse, which is where most apologetics comes from.

[DarkHorse]

Sad little people.

[Zen Badger]

Sad little people.

Indeed, most people give up fairytales before adulthood because they can see the flaws.

But these people will perform the most incredible mental gymnastics possible in order to cling on to their security blankets.

[RobbyPants]

You list these things as if the God that was powerful enough to flood the earth isn't powerful enough to bring plants back to life... The way that I see it is God didn't kill people, He warned them about a coming judgement. He didn't force people to get in the ark, it was their choice... Free will.

No I didn't. I don't think you read the OP in its entirety. Right after I listed those things, I said:

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So, if we assume God can magic up universes from nothing, and magic water up out of nothing and magic it away, then presumably he can magic up some solutions to those problems. So he uses magic to keep the fish alive. He uses magic to keep the plants alive or simply respawns a bunch of new ones later; it's all the same. He either magically sustains the carnivores and keeps them from reproducing while herbivore populations increase to where they could sustain the carnivores, or he holds them in suspended animation during this time. He also makes sure that none of the species get wiped out by a single disease until the species can become more genetically diverse.

Again, this isn't hard to accept in terms of feasibility if he's out there creating universes. We can certainly question why he'd go through such a convoluted plot to kill all the wicked people when a bunch of well-aimed lightning strikes would have done the job. We can question why he magiced all the evidence of the flood away and later based admittance criteria for heaven on belief. Still, it doesn't prove that he couldn't have done it.


The problem is: the children.

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I very explicitly called out that a god capable of creating universes was capable of dealing with all those problems. If you accept that the flood happened, then you have to accept that he dealt with all those problems...

... and he did nothing about the children. Please reformulate your argument to better address my own.

Now we have a judicial system, correct? If the law says that murderers will be punished by death sentence and the government didn't deliver the decree if they had caught a murderer then people would most likely revolt due to injustice.

Do we sentence children to the same sentences as their parents? You're losing the context of the OP. I never once complained about God killing the wicked people. My complaint is the children.

When you lose context like this, you're shifting the goal posts.

God warned about a judgement. In fact they had 150 years to decide whether to get on the boat or not. Now if God would have never delivered that decree the wicked would probably become even more wicked and Noah and his family would also turn from God.

As far as the children go... I think 150 years is enough time to warn your kids about a judgement.

Wow.

"Hey kids, God is going to punish all of us if we adults keep acting irresponsibly. We just wanted to let you know that when he comes down and kills us all, it's our fault! Ha ha!"

I think I'm just going to quote my last line from the OP on that one:

This myth is stupidly contrived and terrible. When people accept it as true, they make some of the most creepy, and morally bankrupt excuses for God I have ever heard.

[Celi]

Awesome. I never thought of it that way. Like in any badly-written work of fiction, how something happened can often be easily explained away by fanon. The tough part part is explaining the characters' motivations and the lack of internal consistency.

[LostLocke]

The way that I see it is God didn't kill people, He warned them about a coming judgement. He didn't force people to get in the ark, it was their choice... Free will.

FYI...
Warning people about a coming catastrophe is not the same thing as causing the catastrophe.

If a dam breaks and I tell the people in the town to leave, I warned them.
If I break the dam, whether I warn them or not, I am completely responsible for what happens to them.
If I tell the people in town to do what I want or I'll break the dam, then I'm just a two bit malicious thug.

[Mystical]

Why would they believe a flood happened when there's no proof that it happened? Well seeing as how I was one of them the answer is: ignorance.

[DarkHorse]

A friend on Facebook once again shared a link providing "proof" that the flood happened.
https://www.facebook.com/1mill.creationi...nt_count=1