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Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 6, 2014 at 11:06 pm
So I'm in this one religious argument on another site, and my opponent just made me lol. I won't say any names, but his argument, revised by me for grammar, is as follows:
"I just hate the ones that say God is a dick, douche, or tyrant, because how can he be any of those things if he doesn't exist?"
My response was simple.
"How can Darth Vader be a tyrant if he doesn't exist?"
Fictional characters have attributes just as much as real people. Just because Darth Vader doesn't exist, doesn't mean he isn't a tyrant. And, just because God doesn't exist, doesn't mean he isn't a douche.
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 6, 2014 at 11:10 pm
Dick, douche, tyrant...all trivial. Get back to me when the devout respond to the fact that their God is a cunt.
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 6, 2014 at 11:11 pm
(April 6, 2014 at 11:10 pm)Cato Wrote: Dick, douche, tyrant...all trivial. Get back to me when the devout respond to the fact that their God is a cunt.
I will.
Maybe this argument wasn't THAT hilarious, I'm just bored.
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 7, 2014 at 9:08 am
(April 6, 2014 at 11:06 pm)Cobra Commander Wrote: So I'm in this one religious argument on another site, and my opponent just made me lol. I won't say any names, but his argument, revised by me for grammar, is as follows:
"I just hate the ones that say God is a dick, douche, or tyrant, because how can he be any of those things if he doesn't exist?"
My response was simple.
"How can Darth Vader be a tyrant if he doesn't exist?"
Fictional characters have attributes just as much as real people. Just because Darth Vader doesn't exist, doesn't mean he isn't a tyrant. And, just because God doesn't exist, doesn't mean he isn't a douche. That's fine, but your own ranks are guilty of the same. When a discussion on god's attributes isn't going well for the atheist, other atheists will jump in and ask for proof that god exists, as if his attributes can't be discussed absent such proof.
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 7, 2014 at 9:40 am
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Damn, thought this was an intro thread.
Meh. Welcome anyway.
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 7, 2014 at 9:40 am
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(April 7, 2014 at 9:08 am)alpha male Wrote: That's fine, but your own ranks are guilty of the same. When a discussion on god's attributes isn't going well for the atheist, other atheists will jump in and ask for proof that god exists, as if his attributes can't be discussed absent such proof.
Here is a recent example of what Alpha male describes from this very forum.
(April 5, 2014 at 12:01 am)Chas Wrote: (April 4, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Heywood Wrote: (April 4, 2014 at 5:21 pm)tor Wrote: How is living 10 years healthy and young and dying instantly worse than dying gradually and painfully over 10 years?
Also how is getting old better than being young whole life?
Most animals are young their whole lives and get killed off(relatively instantly) before they grow old. Humanity is no different. In the Neolithic if you hit 50, you were a very old person....a rarity.
It seems the God set things up exactly the way you want it....but pesky human ingenuity...we had to muck it all up.
No, it seems no god set anything up.
Instead of continuing to discuss God's attributes(with the atheists losing it), another atheists jumps in and attempts to steer the discussion towards one of God's existence.
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 7, 2014 at 9:49 am
Well, logically speaking, it does make sense to discuss whether a god even exists BEFORE we discuss its alleged attributes.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 7, 2014 at 10:21 am
(April 7, 2014 at 9:49 am)orogenicman Wrote: Well, logically speaking, it does make sense to discuss whether a god even exists BEFORE we discuss its alleged attributes.
When you discuss God's attributes there is an implied assumption( an assumption which only exists for the sake of argument) that said God does exists.
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 7, 2014 at 10:26 am
(April 7, 2014 at 10:21 am)Heywood Wrote: When you discuss God's attributes there is an implied assumption( an assumption which only exists for the sake of argument) that said God does exists.
Umm...no. Just no. I don't assume for the sake of argument that Harry Potter exists if I'm talking about the rules for Quiddich. You can discuss the nature and internal consistency of fictional characters without first assuming they exist.
The atheists just like to keep pointing out that, despite how well you can ever argue the actual content of scripture, you still can't get past that first and most important step.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Probably the most hilarious anti-atheist argument I've ever seen.
April 7, 2014 at 10:37 am
(April 7, 2014 at 10:26 am)Faith No More Wrote: (April 7, 2014 at 10:21 am)Heywood Wrote: When you discuss God's attributes there is an implied assumption( an assumption which only exists for the sake of argument) that said God does exists.
Umm...no. Just no. I don't assume for the sake of argument that Harry Potter exists if I'm talking about the rules for Quiddich. You can discuss the nature and internal consistency of fictional characters without first assuming they exist.
Quiddich isn't an attribute of Harry Potter so you analogy falls short.
(April 7, 2014 at 10:26 am)Faith No More Wrote: The atheists just like to keep pointing out that, despite how well you can ever argue the actual content of scripture, you still can't get past that first and most important step.
You could say the theists like to keep pointing out that, despite how well you can ever argue the problem of evil, its a silly argument to make if God doesn't exist.
In both cases if the argument is about God's attributes. Its just bad argumentation to try to change the goal posts in the middle of the game.
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