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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 9:59 am
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 10:09 am
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(April 14, 2014 at 8:27 am)Revelation777 Wrote: (April 14, 2014 at 8:15 am)sven Wrote: Yes. I am mocking you. Because there is no establishable evidence that we go anywhere after we die, or that anything happens after we die. Well, some have hinted in this thread that we may be buried, cremated and so on.
My favourite is the fate of people who die in "socker conny's" universe:
"You are ground down, dried, and sold as furniture stuffing"
(Socker Conny is a classic Swedish cartoon)
Do you have any evidence that there isn't an afterlife?
No, but the lack of evidence for yours seems to suggest you're wrong.
Occam's razor.
(April 14, 2014 at 7:41 am)archangle Wrote: (April 14, 2014 at 4:05 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: What we'll all see when we die:
http://whatyouseewhenyoudie.ytmnd.com
errr, I believe the people that knew me will be happy.
With the present information, I will not be as I am now. That means I will not "be". since I am no big deal, I wonder what I will be?
I'm pretty sure you'll just see the cat.
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 10:14 am
(April 14, 2014 at 8:27 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Do you have any evidence that there isn't an afterlife?
Memory is stored in the brain and accessed through it.
When the brain is damaged, whether by disease, injury or substance abuse, it's capacity to store or access memory is compromised. Most horrifically, IMHO, is Alzheimer's where the victim gradually loses all their memories and can no longer recognize loved ones or remember who they are.
When we die, the brain is not merely damaged but completely destroyed.
What is your basis of hope that we will somehow retain the memories we had in life without the brain when we have such trouble accessing them when the brain is damaged?
IMHO, this all but rules out any afterlife scenario except perhaps reincarnation, and even then the person I was will be gone.
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 11:50 am
(April 14, 2014 at 8:27 am)Revelation777 Wrote: (April 14, 2014 at 8:15 am)sven Wrote: Yes. I am mocking you. Because there is no establishable evidence that we go anywhere after we die, or that anything happens after we die. Well, some have hinted in this thread that we may be buried, cremated and so on.
My favourite is the fate of people who die in "socker conny's" universe:
"You are ground down, dried, and sold as furniture stuffing"
(Socker Conny is a classic Swedish cartoon)
Do you have any evidence that there isn't an afterlife?
There is something after we die. But we need to define what. They mock you because that's all they have. That is independent of belief.
Now lets talk about defining something none of us know with stuff most of us know. It is not about right and wrong. It is only about using what we know to talk about what we don't know.
Would that be to your liking?
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 12:22 pm
(April 14, 2014 at 11:50 am)archangle Wrote: (April 14, 2014 at 8:27 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Do you have any evidence that there isn't an afterlife?
There is something after we die. But we need to define what. They mock you because that's all they have. That is independent of belief.
Do you have any evidence that there is 'something' after we die? The evidence is that mind requires brain. Brain dies, mind is gone.
Quote:Now lets talk about defining something none of us know with stuff most of us know. It is not about right and wrong. It is only about using what we know to talk about what we don't know.
Would that be to your liking?
Yes, it is about what we know. You don't know anything about 'after death'.
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 12:27 pm
(April 14, 2014 at 8:27 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Do you have any evidence that there isn't an afterlife? Aside from the lack of evidence for one?
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 6:28 pm
(April 14, 2014 at 8:27 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Do you have any evidence that there isn't an afterlife?
Seriously? Shifting the burden of proof is like, debate 101 fail.
Do you have any evidence that the Hindu or Zoroastrian after life don't exist?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 6:40 pm
There is no evidence that an after life exists or doesn't but why live your life as if you "know" there is one? That doesn't make sense.
I didn't believe in heaven/hell even as a Christian.
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 7:00 pm
Same thing as when I fall sleep and fail to dream.
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RE: What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die?
April 14, 2014 at 7:03 pm
(April 14, 2014 at 8:27 am)Revelation777 Wrote: (April 14, 2014 at 8:15 am)sven Wrote: Yes. I am mocking you. Because there is no establishable evidence that we go anywhere after we die, or that anything happens after we die. Well, some have hinted in this thread that we may be buried, cremated and so on.
My favourite is the fate of people who die in "socker conny's" universe:
"You are ground down, dried, and sold as furniture stuffing"
(Socker Conny is a classic Swedish cartoon)
Do you have any evidence that there isn't an afterlife?
Yes. The lack of people who have truly been dead coming back to tell us there is one.
Your answer will be, "Jesus did".
My response, "Prove it. The bible is proof that people wrote the bible. That's it."
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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