Britain is in trouble

[zebo-the-fat]

OK, big Lizzy is head of the church, what does that mean? What does she actually do and who would be inconvenienced if she stopped doing it?

Really, does it matter whether she does something or not? She is both the sovereign of the country, and the head of the Anglican Church, which has traditionally been an important, and frankly, an inseperable aspect of the British nation.
Its not about the current Queen, my friend, after she dies, the next monarch will be the head of the church, as monarchies depend upon such traditions.

Yes, but what does she do??

[kılıç_mehmet]

Really, does it matter whether she does something or not? She is both the sovereign of the country, and the head of the Anglican Church, which has traditionally been an important, and frankly, an inseperable aspect of the British nation.
Its not about the current Queen, my friend, after she dies, the next monarch will be the head of the church, as monarchies depend upon such traditions.

Yes, but what does she do??

She doesn't have to do anything. That's the point of constitutional monarchy. She is merely there as the symbol of the British nation.

[Cyberman]

And, like all symbols, would make a pleasing sound when struck.

[kılıç_mehmet]

And, like all symbols, would make a pleasing sound when struck.

Meh, really.
I'm not going to defend their Queen. If the brits so strongly dislike her, they can do as the Russkies had done with the Romanovs. Exterminate the whole bloodline and be done with it.

[Cyberman]

Absolutely. Because as we all know, extermination always ends well, doean't it?

Unless... gasp! ... there's another option..?

Since (nominally) she is my queen as well, I'd much rather see the institution made as redundant as it is already powerless. Our Government can operate quite happily without it and nobody outside of a fossilised industry with a vested interest and brown nose would even notice. The trains would continue to run, the bins would still be emptied, the world would still spin. We'd have more newspaper space for ever more banal chav TV non-stories, but apart from that...

Never mind, though. Keep up the binary thinking.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Absolutely. Because as we all know, extermination always ends well, doean't it?

Unless... gasp! ... there's another option..?

Since (nominally) she is my queen as well, I'd much rather see the institution made as redundant as it is already powerless. Our Government can operate quite happily without it and nobody outside of a fossilised industry with a vested interest and brown nose would even notice. The trains would continue to run, the bins would still be emptied, the world would still spin. We'd have more newspaper space for ever more banal chav TV non-stories, but apart from that...

Never mind, though. Keep up the binary thinking.

As I said, its really your call.
You only validate my previous words. She is not there to run the country, she is there to represent the country and the British nation.
We removed our monarchs, the Ottoman Dynasty from power because we did not want them to be the representatives of our nation anymore. We stated that we wanted a nation state based on the people who founded the country, and ousted the monarchs, declaring them persona non grata.
But that happened with a revolution, not with some peaceful talks about whether we should abolish monarchy or not, Atatürk came and said:

"Sovereignity and kingship are not given to anyone via talks or debates. Sovereignity and kingship are taken with power, force and valor. The Ottomans also have been the owners of the sovereignity of the Turkish nation via force. They have been in office for 600 years. Now, the Turkish nation is returning the favor to those who ravaged, by taking sovereignity and kingship in his own hand. This is an instantenous process.
The real subject is not whether we are going to give our nation the right to rule.
This is nothing more than the pronounciation of an established fact. It would be appropriate if everyone that is here and in the parliament see the subject in this way, but else, these facts will again be retold in the appropriate manner. But maybe some heads will be cut off in the process."

While saying the last sentence, he made a gesture with his hand, a hard sweep from left to right, as though his hand cut through an invisible neck, and everyone agreed.

If you seek to abolish the monarchy, you will need to try harder than that.

[Cyberman]

Actually, we're doing better than that. Much like with our church, we're making our monarchy irrelevant - and not a single shot fired in anger.

[downbeatplumb]

And, like all symbols, would make a pleasing sound when struck.

Meh, really.
I'm not going to defend their Queen. If the brits so strongly dislike her, they can do as the Russkies had done with the Romanovs. Exterminate the whole bloodline and be done with it.

I'd rather go down the Maoist route and get them to sweep the streets.

[Cyberman]

Old Liz with a scarf round her head and a fag in her mouth, mop in hand...

Gets my vote!

[kılıç_mehmet]

Actually, we're doing better than that. Much like with our church, we're making our monarchy irrelevant - and not a single shot fired in anger.

The monarchy is always relevant as long as it is there.
You can't make it irrelevant just by saying so. It's there, so its relevant.
Its as simple as that. The monarchy is not going to step down just because you tell them to.
Besides, why would you fire a shot in anger? The monarchy isn't really hurting you or anything.

I'd rather go down the Maoist route and get them to sweep the streets.

Well, your call, mate.

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Besides, you also got a lot of royalists in Britain, so I don't think that you can actually make the monarchy irrelevant just by wishing so.
Besides, irrelevancy is a rather...subjective term.