My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"

[Confused Ape]

Allah is real,

Two questions.

How do you know that Allah is real?

You've rejected what religion teaches so how would you describe Allah?

[Rabb Allah]

Two questions.

How do you know that Allah is real?

Through my ability to reason and see the world in terms of pure physicality.

You've rejected what religion teaches so how would you describe Allah?

What do you mean?
Look at the world and that alone describes God. Have you never heard of Natural Theology before?

[Rampant.A.I.]

Two questions.

How do you know that Allah is real?

Through my ability to reason and see the world in terms of pure physicality.

You've rejected what religion teaches so how would you describe Allah?

What do you mean?
Look at the world and that alone describes God. Have you never heard of Natural Theology before?

Nice double dodge here.

Apparently, you hold on to the belief you were indoctrinated into. No surprise there, but don't claim it's rational when you can't even qualify it, or how it aligns with pagan traditions, or what distinguishes Allah from Jehovah from Unicorns from Santa as a reasonable belief instead of just another vestige of superstition.

[Rabb Allah]

Nice double dodge here.

Apparently, you hold on to the belief you were indoctrinated into.

I was never born a Muslim. I dislike Islam with a burning passion along with the false cow-fucking prophet Muhammad.

No surprise there, but don't claim it's rational when you can't even qualify it, or how it aligns with pagan traditions, or what distinguishes Allah from Jehovah from Unicorns from Santa as a reasonable belief instead of just another vestige of superstition.

Allah is a pagan deity, even Kuttub al-Sittah mentions this along with al-Qur'an:


"And they attribute to Allah daughters - exalted is He - and for them is what they desire."

Allah is just a word I like using, nothing more nothing less. I know exactly what it means and exactly where it comes from. Muslims do not own the name but instead stole it and killed the owners(not even they truly owned the name).

al-Baqara ayat 115: "To ALLAH belongs the East and the West; so where ever you turn, there will be the face of ALLAH. Surely, ALLAH is Bountiful, All-Knowing."

Try applying some hermeneutics to that verse and see how it correlates to proof of god. Hint: many pagans did not believe their own myths were real

[Confused Ape]

Through my ability to reason and see the world in terms of pure physicality.

I cam across this article about Shiva.

At the end of the section titled - Shiva as the Supreme Reality - there's -

Shiva is also the great deity of nature, the lord of animals or Pashupati. He is the lord of the wild. He really has no human form. We find his face and form hidden in nature, whether in the mountain, tree, the cloud, the animal or the rock

The article then goes on to say -

The Duality of Shiva and Shakti

Yet Shiva forms a duality of cosmic powers at a manifest level as the cosmic masculine force, along with his complimentary Shakti or feminine principle.

The worship of Shiva and Shakti or the dual cosmic powers represents the natural religion of all humanity and of the entire universe, which revolves around honoring these two forces in all their manifestations in both the animate and inanimate realms.

In the Section titled Forms Of Shiva there's -

Shiva’s consorts or feminine counterparts are similarly many in name and form.

Just as Shiva is Mahadeva or the Great God, his consort is Mahadevi or the Great Goddess. Her forms are as diverse and paradoxical as those of Shiva’s, reflecting the universal power that is rooted in transformation, not in fixed appearances.

So, when you look around you at the world, how can you be certain that you're looking at the work of Allah and not an aspect of Shiva?

What do you mean?
Look at the world and that alone describes God. Have you never heard of Natural Theology before?

Yes, I have heard of Natural Theology but I'm interested in what Allah means to you, personally. Do you see him as a watchmaker or a computer programmer? Is Allah masculine or a balance of masculine and feminine or neither? Is Allah outside the universe or manifested in it?

I'm not going to laugh at you or say you're stupid because I'm genuinely interested in what people experience. I just get irritated with some religious people who insist that their concept of the Supreme Reality is THE Truth because other traditions have their own concepts.

Is there a Supreme Reality? Nobody knows but it seems that humans evolved to have concepts of one.

[Rabb Allah]

Through my ability to reason and see the world in terms of pure physicality.[/quote' Wrote: I cam across this article about Shiva.

At the end of the section titled - Shiva as the Supreme Reality - there's -

Shiva is also the great deity of nature, the lord of animals or Pashupati. He is the lord of the wild. He really has no human form. We find his face and form hidden in nature, whether in the mountain, tree, the cloud, the animal or the rock

The article then goes on to say -

The Duality of Shiva and Shakti

Yet Shiva forms a duality of cosmic powers at a manifest level as the cosmic masculine force, along with his complimentary Shakti or feminine principle.

The worship of Shiva and Shakti or the dual cosmic powers represents the natural religion of all humanity and of the entire universe, which revolves around honoring these two forces in all their manifestations in both the animate and inanimate realms.

In the Section titled Forms Of Shiva there's -

Shiva’s consorts or feminine counterparts are similarly many in name and form.

Just as Shiva is Mahadeva or the Great God, his consort is Mahadevi or the Great Goddess. Her forms are as diverse and paradoxical as those of Shiva’s, reflecting the universal power that is rooted in transformation, not in fixed appearances.

So, when you look around you at the world, how can you be certain that you're looking at the work of Allah and not an aspect of Shiva?

What do you mean?
Look at the world and that alone describes God. Have you never heard of Natural Theology before?

Yes, I have heard of Natural Theology but I'm interested in what Allah means to you, personally. Do you see him as a watchmaker or a computer programmer? Is Allah masculine or a balance of masculine and feminine or neither? Is Allah outside the universe or manifested in it?

I'm not going to laugh at you or say you're stupid because I'm genuinely interested in what people experience. I just get irritated with some religious people who insist that their concept of the Supreme Reality is THE Truth because other traditions have their own concepts.

Is there a Supreme Reality? Nobody knows but it seems that humans evolved to have concepts of one.

Just so you know, I was a Shaivite Hindu(very bad one) so I am quite influenced by the Shiva Purana. Allah is a name and I do not understand your fixation upon a mere name as being somehow different than another when it means the same thing.
By Supreme Reality(Brahman) you are saying there is a type of objective reality in existence which is not simply true, only 1/3 of it is objective and the rest is subjective and semantical. Saying that there is an ultimate truth is a fallacy as I can say that god is inherently evil because suffering exist in the world yet you could say the opposite.

So please tell me why suffering exist and why is god not evil because such suffering exist in the world. Do you even believe that suffering exist in the world?

[Confused Ape]

Just so you know, I was a Shaivite Hindu(very bad one) so I am quite influenced by the Shiva Purana. Allah is a name and I do not understand your fixation upon a mere name as being somehow different than another when it means the same thing.

Yes, Allah is a name but I wanted to find out what you, personally, mean by it. If I've interpreted your post correctly, you regard Allah as being the same thing as Shiva, whatever that thing actually is.

By Supreme Reality(Brahman) you are saying there is a type of objective reality in existence which is not simply true, only 1/3 of it is objective and the rest is subjective and semantical.

I haven't the faintest idea what the nature of Supreme Reality is, all supposing it exists in the first place. If I had to make a guess, I'd say that it's the ultimate reality of our universe which physicists are still trying to figure out.

Quantum physics somehow got mixed up with Hinduism. In the Preface To The Tao Of Physics Fritjof Capra, a physicist, describes a subjective experience he had one day.

Five years ago, I had a beautiful experience which set me on a road that has led to the writing of this book. I was sitting by the ocean one late summer afternoon, watching the waves rolling in and feeling the rhythm of my breathing, when I suddenly became aware of my whole environment as being engaged in a gigantic cosmic dance. Being a physicist, I knew that the sand, rocks, water, and air around me were made of vibrating molecules and atoms, and that these consisted of particles which interacted with one another by creating and destroying other particles. I knew also that the earth's atmosphere was continually bombarded by showers of "cosmic rays," particles of high energy undergoing multiple collisions as they penetrated the air. All this was familiar to me from my research in high-energy physics, but until that moment I had only experienced it through graphs, diagrams, and mathematical theories. As I sat on that beach my former experiences came to life; I "saw" cascades of energy coming down from outer space, in which particles were created and destroyed in rhythmic pulses; I "saw" the atoms of the elements and those of my body participating in this cosmic dance of energy; I felt its rhythm and I "heard" its sound, and at that moment I knew that this was the Dance of Shiva, the Lord of Dancers worshiped by the Hindus.

There is now a statue of Shiva in his aspect of Nataraja, the Lord of Dance at CERN.

Shiva's Cosmic Dance At CERN

A special plaque next to the Shiva statue at CERN explains the significance of the metaphor of Shiva's cosmic dance with several quotations from The Tao of Physics.

Saying that there is an ultimate truth is a fallacy as I can say that god is inherently evil because suffering exist in the world yet you could say the opposite.

It depends on how one defines ultimate truth. Maybe ultimate truth is just the ultimate nature of the universe.

So please tell me why suffering exist and why is god not evil because such suffering exist in the world. Do you even believe that suffering exist in the world?

The universe is what the universe is. It's ridiculous projecting our human values and concept of purpose onto it. I'm an atheist so I don't regard it as a deity. My subjective experience of a Goddess was just that - she's a metaphor in the same way that Shiva is a metaphor at CERN.

[Chas]

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I've already made a topic about what I call my New Age Perception so I'm going to link to it instead of explaining it again.

Have Switched To My 'New Age' Perception

Today is May Day so I switched over to "New Age Perception". It's like I'm aware of the planet as a living entity. I also have an inner image of the Venus of Willendorf. This is just one of several Venus Figurines from the Upper Paleolithic period. Nobody knows what the figururines meant to the people who made them but modern Goddess worshippers have adopted the Willendorf figure as a symbol of the Great Mother Goddess. My unconscious mind decided to use it as well. It's not something I'd have consciously chosen, however, because I think it's grotesque.

I had a related experience when I visited the Anglican Shrine Of Our Lady Of Walsingham. When I was in the Church and Holy House I was aware of a powerful female presence but she was far older than Christianity.

So what does it all mean? I think we can safely say that the human brain can move in mysterious ways.

How does it relate to religion? When Christians say they feel their God's presence or whatever I'm guessing they have experiences similar to my own. There are two major differences between us, though.

1: The Christian's unconscious mind draws on Christian mythology. Mine draws on pagan mythology.

2: The Christian believes that his/her God is an objective reality 'out there'. I interpret my own experiences as being purely subjective.

Finally, what does the Great Mother mean to me as a symbol? She's not a fluffy mother because she's Nature which is anything but fluffy. If I ever did convert to Goddess worship I wouldn't have to struggle with the problem of a loving parent who does horrible things to her children.

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The goal of sub-atomic particles is to plant the seeds of inspiration rather than illusion.
Hope is the nature of spacetime, and of us. Wonder is a constant.
Although you may not realize it, you are consciousness-expanding.

Reality has always been overflowing with beings whose dreams are opened by transcendence. We are at a crossroads of wisdom and stagnation. Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the quantum matrix via bio-electricity.

Reiki may be the solution to what’s holding you back from a magnificent explosion of presence. As you self-actualize, you will enter into infinite presence that transcends understanding. Through astral projection, our third eyes are baptized in understanding.

Entity, look within and strengthen yourself. If you have never experienced this rebirth of unfathomable proportions, it can be difficult to heal. The world is calling to you via frequencies. Can you hear it?

You will soon be awakened by a power deep within yourself — a power that is angelic, conscious.

How should you navigate this heroic quantum cycle? Have you found your story? It can be difficult to know where to begin.

Yes, it is possible to confront the things that can destroy us, but not without love on our side. Only a prophet of the planet may harmonize this network of consciousness. The complexity of the present time seems to demand a summoning of our lives if we are going to survive.

[Confused Ape]

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The goal of sub-atomic particles is to plant the seeds of inspiration rather than illusion.
Hope is the nature of spacetime, and of us. Wonder is a constant.
Although you may not realize it, you are consciousness-expanding.

Reality has always been overflowing with beings whose dreams are opened by transcendence. We are at a crossroads of wisdom and stagnation. Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the quantum matrix via bio-electricity.

Reiki may be the solution to what’s holding you back from a magnificent explosion of presence. As you self-actualize, you will enter into infinite presence that transcends understanding. Through astral projection, our third eyes are baptized in understanding.

Entity, look within and strengthen yourself. If you have never experienced this rebirth of unfathomable proportions, it can be difficult to heal. The world is calling to you via frequencies. Can you hear it?

You will soon be awakened by a power deep within yourself — a power that is angelic, conscious.

How should you navigate this heroic quantum cycle? Have you found your story? It can be difficult to know where to begin.

Yes, it is possible to confront the things that can destroy us, but not without love on our side. Only a prophet of the planet may harmonize this network of consciousness. The complexity of the present time seems to demand a summoning of our lives if we are going to survive.

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