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RE: My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 2, 2014 at 5:43 am
(May 1, 2014 at 10:36 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Allah is real,
Two questions.
How do you know that Allah is real?
You've rejected what religion teaches so how would you describe Allah?
Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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RE: My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 4, 2014 at 6:20 pm
(May 2, 2014 at 5:43 am)Confused Ape Wrote: Two questions.
How do you know that Allah is real?
Through my ability to reason and see the world in terms of pure physicality.
Quote:You've rejected what religion teaches so how would you describe Allah?
What do you mean?
Look at the world and that alone describes God. Have you never heard of Natural Theology before?
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My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 4, 2014 at 8:21 pm
(May 4, 2014 at 6:20 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: (May 2, 2014 at 5:43 am)Confused Ape Wrote: Two questions.
How do you know that Allah is real?
Through my ability to reason and see the world in terms of pure physicality.
Quote:You've rejected what religion teaches so how would you describe Allah?
What do you mean?
Look at the world and that alone describes God. Have you never heard of Natural Theology before?
Nice double dodge here.
Apparently, you hold on to the belief you were indoctrinated into. No surprise there, but don't claim it's rational when you can't even qualify it, or how it aligns with pagan traditions, or what distinguishes Allah from Jehovah from Unicorns from Santa as a reasonable belief instead of just another vestige of superstition.
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RE: My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 5, 2014 at 1:17 am
(May 4, 2014 at 8:21 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Nice double dodge here.
Apparently, you hold on to the belief you were indoctrinated into.
I was never born a Muslim. I dislike Islam with a burning passion along with the false cow-fucking prophet Muhammad.
Quote:No surprise there, but don't claim it's rational when you can't even qualify it, or how it aligns with pagan traditions, or what distinguishes Allah from Jehovah from Unicorns from Santa as a reasonable belief instead of just another vestige of superstition.
Allah is a pagan deity, even Kuttub al-Sittah mentions this along with al-Qur'an:
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"And they attribute to Allah daughters - exalted is He - and for them is what they desire."
Allah is just a word I like using, nothing more nothing less. I know exactly what it means and exactly where it comes from. Muslims do not own the name but instead stole it and killed the owners(not even they truly owned the name).
al-Baqara ayat 115: "To ALLAH belongs the East and the West; so where ever you turn, there will be the face of ALLAH. Surely, ALLAH is Bountiful, All-Knowing."
Try applying some hermeneutics to that verse and see how it correlates to proof of god. Hint: many pagans did not believe their own myths were real
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RE: My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 5, 2014 at 3:41 am
Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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RE: My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 6, 2014 at 1:31 am
(May 5, 2014 at 3:41 am)Confused Ape Wrote: Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab
Through my ability to reason and see the world in terms of pure physicality.[/quote' Wrote: I cam across this article about Shiva.
At the end of the section titled - Shiva as the Supreme Reality - there's -
Quote:Shiva is also the great deity of nature, the lord of animals or Pashupati. He is the lord of the wild. He really has no human form. We find his face and form hidden in nature, whether in the mountain, tree, the cloud, the animal or the rock
The article then goes on to say -
Quote:The Duality of Shiva and Shakti
Yet Shiva forms a duality of cosmic powers at a manifest level as the cosmic masculine force, along with his complimentary Shakti or feminine principle.
The worship of Shiva and Shakti or the dual cosmic powers represents the natural religion of all humanity and of the entire universe, which revolves around honoring these two forces in all their manifestations in both the animate and inanimate realms.
In the Section titled Forms Of Shiva there's -
Quote:Shiva’s consorts or feminine counterparts are similarly many in name and form.
Just as Shiva is Mahadeva or the Great God, his consort is Mahadevi or the Great Goddess. Her forms are as diverse and paradoxical as those of Shiva’s, reflecting the universal power that is rooted in transformation, not in fixed appearances.
So, when you look around you at the world, how can you be certain that you're looking at the work of Allah and not an aspect of Shiva?
Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab [/quote' Wrote: What do you mean?
Look at the world and that alone describes God. Have you never heard of Natural Theology before?
Yes, I have heard of Natural Theology but I'm interested in what Allah means to you, personally. Do you see him as a watchmaker or a computer programmer? Is Allah masculine or a balance of masculine and feminine or neither? Is Allah outside the universe or manifested in it?
I'm not going to laugh at you or say you're stupid because I'm genuinely interested in what people experience. I just get irritated with some religious people who insist that their concept of the Supreme Reality is THE Truth because other traditions have their own concepts.
Is there a Supreme Reality? Nobody knows but it seems that humans evolved to have concepts of one.
Just so you know, I was a Shaivite Hindu(very bad one) so I am quite influenced by the Shiva Purana. Allah is a name and I do not understand your fixation upon a mere name as being somehow different than another when it means the same thing.
By Supreme Reality(Brahman) you are saying there is a type of objective reality in existence which is not simply true, only 1/3 of it is objective and the rest is subjective and semantical. Saying that there is an ultimate truth is a fallacy as I can say that god is inherently evil because suffering exist in the world yet you could say the opposite.
So please tell me why suffering exist and why is god not evil because such suffering exist in the world. Do you even believe that suffering exist in the world?
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RE: My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 6, 2014 at 5:33 am
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RE: My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 6, 2014 at 12:20 pm
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: My "New Age Perception" - The Goddess Is "Real"
May 6, 2014 at 1:13 pm
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