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Believers, please differentiate these gods.
#31
RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
(May 2, 2014 at 5:16 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote:
(May 2, 2014 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Jesus could be active in you're life if you wanted. He's waiting for you to come home, Esquilax.

How do you know this? (the bible does NOT count as a valid source of knowledge)
Why? Just because you say so?
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#32
RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
(May 5, 2014 at 2:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(May 2, 2014 at 5:16 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: How do you know this? (the bible does NOT count as a valid source of knowledge)
Why? Just because you say so?

And the Bible is a valid source of knowledge . . . because it says so?
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#33
RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
(May 5, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(May 5, 2014 at 2:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Why? Just because you say so?

And the Bible is a valid source of knowledge . . . because it says so?

Which version of the bible?
There have been many different versions over the years, they can't all be the "true word of god" if they are different!
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#34
RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
Can we stay on topic please? Let's talk about how frodo, godschild, and chadwooters can't differentiate gods B and C because those gods are indistinguishable from one other.

You know what, maybe this is a good place to end the thread, now that this has been established.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.
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#35
Believers, please differentiate these gods.
This is a milder version of the "what distinguishes your god from other supernatural entities?" question I keep asking, and am repeatedly brushed off for.

If you are encultured by your geographic location to believe specific supernatural entities are real, and then move to an area where the beliefs aren't shared, everyone will look at you cross-eyed when you talk about your supernatural entities. For them, it's "common sense" that theirs exist, and they've never heard of yours, so they sound ridiculous.

Several hundred years ago, this effect would have been much more pronounced, but it still applies.

If the people not produced by your culture hold different supernatural entities as existent, but have never heard of yours, what is the distinguishing characteristic that makes your beliefs true, and their beliefs false?

It seems pretty telling that the "rational true believers" don't have an answer.
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#36
RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
(May 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: This is a milder version of the "what distinguishes your god from other supernatural entities?" question I keep asking, and am repeatedly brushed off for.

Not really, to the theists, God C represents all the other gods.

(May 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: If you are encultured by your geographic location to believe specific supernatural entities are real, and then move to an area where the beliefs aren't shared, everyone will look at you cross-eyed when you talk about your supernatural entities. For them, it's "common sense" that theirs exist, and they've never heard of yours, so they sound ridiculous.

Which is always a good point to make to them. Good on you.

(May 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Several hundred years ago, this effect would have been much more pronounced, but it still applies.

The theists hundreds of years ago would try to have us killed just for talking about this. But yes, less people had access to others culture or personal sect of religion.

(May 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: If the people not produced by your culture hold different supernatural entities as existent, but have never heard of yours, what is the distinguishing characteristic that makes your beliefs true, and their beliefs false?

The common things I hear are; Christianity is true because of the number of Christians, that Christianity has a long history..thanks to Rome..or that there is no other religion with [enter bullshit here] Characteristic X or Characteristic Y of their religion.

(May 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: It seems pretty telling that the "rational true believers" don't have an answer.

To be honest, I sort of made this thread knowing they couldn't answer me.

But who knows, maybe one of them could've surprised me...but they didn't.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.
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#37
RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
(May 5, 2014 at 8:36 pm)Godslayer Wrote: Can we stay on topic please? Let's talk about how frodo, godschild, and chadwooters can't differentiate gods B and C because those gods are indistinguishable from one other.

You know what, maybe this is a good place to end the thread, now that this has been established.
Maybe now you can explain what this pointless exercise was all about.
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#38
Believers, please differentiate these gods.
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#39
RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
(May 5, 2014 at 8:36 pm)Godslayer Wrote: Can we stay on topic please? Let's talk about how frodo, godschild, and chadwooters can't differentiate gods B and C because those gods are indistinguishable from one other.

You know what, maybe this is a good place to end the thread, now that this has been established.

So when we disagree with you we do not understand, yeah right, your bigotry is showing.

GC
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#40
Believers, please differentiate these gods.
Disagree?

You mean utterly failed to answer a simple question directly, and then cry "persecution" when off-topic remarks aren't considered answers.

For an example of actual Bigotry, refer to your views on homosexuals.
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