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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
May 8, 2014 at 2:48 pm
Wow, he hasn't been back since that "kinds" remark? Maybe he actually learned something?
When things like this happen, do apologists actually admit when their arguments have been dissected and torn apart...or do they just disappear from the forums??
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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
May 8, 2014 at 3:13 pm
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(May 7, 2014 at 3:17 pm)Walker_Lee Wrote: People say it is true and has tons of facts. I have never been given one. So please, can you give me some evidence?
Ah, yes, well, simple misunderstanding here. You see the evidence was the reason that Darwin reached the conclusions he did. Before Darwin cretinous theists such as yourself would say things like "With all the diversity of life - how else could it have happened other than from God himself?"
You see the evidence was here first - what we needed was a theory to explain it. This is where Darwin came in - evolution through natural selection gave us, for the first time, a reasonable explanation as to the diversity of life observed without requiring a divine creator.
Of course, it should be stressed that many, including Darwin himself, saw evolution as God's tool for creating life, but that's a minor aberration one can forgive - bearing in mind the times he lived in.
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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
May 8, 2014 at 3:20 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 3:13 pm)max-greece Wrote: Of course, it should be stressed that many, including Darwin himself, saw evolution as God's tool for creating life, but that's a minor aberration one can forgive - bearing in mind the times he lived in.
Nah, Darwin said his theory didn't explain the creation of life itself, but just its diversification.
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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
May 8, 2014 at 3:24 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 3:20 pm)ThePinsir Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 3:13 pm)max-greece Wrote: Of course, it should be stressed that many, including Darwin himself, saw evolution as God's tool for creating life, but that's a minor aberration one can forgive - bearing in mind the times he lived in.
Nah, Darwin said his theory didn't explain the creation of life itself, but just its diversification.
Correct - my bad - one beer too many.
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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
May 8, 2014 at 5:04 pm
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So here's the counter question, OP: You've been given overwhelming evidence for evolutio, are you going to take it to heart and study/investigate what you've been given, or completely ignore it and continue to deny it?
(May 8, 2014 at 2:48 pm)ThePinsir Wrote: Wow, he hasn't been back since that "kinds" remark? Maybe he actually learned something?
When things like this happen, do apologists actually admit when their arguments have been dissected and torn apart...or do they just disappear from the forums??
The sad thing is I've had an almost identical discussion with someone on HuffPost, and they just brought up "kinds".
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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
May 8, 2014 at 5:47 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 1:31 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (May 7, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Walker_Lee Wrote: Ok, most of you are giving examples of evolving in little ways. I should have clarified this but i am talking about a change of kind. IN the case of evolution some people think a fish or a monkey to a human. Do you have evidence of a change of kinds like a fish to a human, or a monkey to a human.
You must be the product of an American education.
So sad to see a once mighty nation crumble under the weight of accumulated ignorance.
On the other hand my sons are all better educated than this (My youngest is eleven), so should be able to better compete in the global job market.
We are bettering ourselves in some ways, but falling behind in others. Religion is a big reason for falling behind in some places, and is trying it's hardest to stop us from bettering ourselves in the ways we actually are getting better. Basically trying to squash equality and scientific education.
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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
May 8, 2014 at 6:11 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 1:31 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (May 7, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Walker_Lee Wrote: Ok, most of you are giving examples of evolving in little ways. I should have clarified this but i am talking about a change of kind. IN the case of evolution some people think a fish or a monkey to a human. Do you have evidence of a change of kinds like a fish to a human, or a monkey to a human.
You must be the product of an American education.
So sad to see a once mighty nation crumble under the weight of accumulated ignorance.
On the other hand my sons are all better educated than this (My youngest is eleven), so should be able to better compete in the global job market.
Well, it's not enough to just know that the the god of bronze age Bedouins wasn’t responsible for what's around you. You also need to be able to know chemistry, do math and that kind of things.
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RE: Can you give any evidence for Darwin's theory?
May 8, 2014 at 9:40 pm
I think what he wants is this picture.
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