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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 5, 2014 at 11:34 pm
So..how do you determine how many bolts you have in your hand my friend? How do you know that there are three, and not four, or eleventy-five? No criteria for determining that whatsoever?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 5, 2014 at 11:39 pm
Hey, I'm going to have to bow down from this discussion (at least for the time being). Too stressed to continue right now.
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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 5, 2014 at 11:41 pm
No worries.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 6, 2014 at 8:44 am
(June 27, 2014 at 7:28 am)naimless Wrote: No, I am sincere. Many people have learnt moral lessons through religious influence. When one takes away religion entirely, it can be hard to see the logic of keeping any subsequent morality. The only real atheistic reason for understanding or forgiveness that I can see, is if everything is physical and pre-determined anyway... but then that also negates my own responsibility or free will and so everything I do is essentially inconsequential, including murder.
I'd posit that your view is myopic, then.
I've found in my atheistic view that forgiveness is one of the keys to happiness: when I'm wrong, I ask the forgiveness of those whom I've wronged, and when someone wrongs me, I forgive them where possible, because anger is far too corrosive an emotion to permit its permanent residence in my head.
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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 6, 2014 at 9:19 am
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2014 at 9:19 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Hehehe, I missed that gem. Hard to see the logic of keeping any subsequent morality? Hard to whom? Why? Most of us run on autopilot with regards to morality. Whens the last time anybody willing to share actually had to analyze or agonize over some moral dilemma?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 14, 2014 at 5:39 pm
(July 5, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Irrational Wrote: I pick two sticks from here and two sticks from there, and they add up to 4. That's nature telling me 2 + 2 = 4 .. Um...no. Mathematical and formal concepts are true independent of any physical property or the substances they embody.
Also both sticks are unique and distinct things. Nature shows you nothing apart from intellect.
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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 14, 2014 at 5:43 pm
DNA
That's why 'morals' differ from person to person - because DNA is unique to each individual, and it is also why there's a general sense of what is 'moral' among our species.
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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 14, 2014 at 6:58 pm
i say:
i do what is in my best interest to survive and keep my freedom of mobility.
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RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
July 14, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: OP
"We just make that shit up."
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