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They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
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RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
Wouldn't that be ironic?
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#12
RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
The best thing that can happen to a muslim is to die on the haji because it's a sure way to get to paradise. Therefore, any attempt to reduce deaths during that time is actually a mean thing to do because it prevents people from going to paradise.

"It has been narrated form Abi ‘Abdillah [Imam Ja’far Ibn Muhammad as-Sadiq] (peace be upon him) that he said, “A person who dies while proceeding towards Makkah or while returning back (from Makkah) will be protected from the great distress of the Day of Resurrection.”"

Maladhul Akhyar, Volume 7, Page 223
http://www.al-islam.org/forty-ahadith-on...e-way-hajj
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#13
RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
Perhaps their deity is telling them that they are no more than a virus and will die en-masse?

Nothing will be done until the priestly class start dying from this virus
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
Why would anyone want to do anything? Pilgrims get bonus points on Judgment Day if they die on the haji. Reducing the number who die on the pilgrimage means that some will end up in the Islamic hell instead of kicking back with those virgins.
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RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
This 'problem' will sort itself out.... two birds and all that
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#16
RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
Maybe this is Allah's way of separating out the True Muslims™ from the rest.

The more pertinent question being... are the ones who survive the true muslims, or the ones who die?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
The ones who die are the true ones. All of the others will have to face Judgment Day and they could get tossed into the Islamic hell, which is a very bad place (according to the Arabian religious fairy tale).
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RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
Quote: Therefore, any attempt to reduce deaths during that time is actually a mean thing to do because it prevents people from going to paradise.


They are probably far more interested in the money that the pilgrims spend.
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RE: They Spend Half Their Lives Groveling to Fucking Allah
Before the Saudis developed their oil economy the haji was their primary source of foreign income. It's still a very big business. So there's the conflict between the business and the religious doctrine. They are very strict on enforcing the religious doctrine as long as it doesn't cost them money. However, very devout muslims should be hopeful that they will die on the pilgrimage. It's like Christians getting killed for their faith. It's a sure fire way to get to paradise or to heaven. But now maybe just one out of a million believe that, which is why the pope rides in a bullet proof vehicle.
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