Pro-life atheists

[Heywood]

A sperm is as much a potential human being as a tire is a potential car. A tire by itself has no potential to be a car and a sperm by itself has no potential to be a human being. Claims that masturbation kills future human beings are rubbish.

By your own logic, a fetus by itself has no potential to be a person. Thanks have a nice day.

Negative Losty,

A fetus by itself is a human being....not a potential human being...but an actual one.

[Esquilax]

By your own logic, a fetus by itself has no potential to be a person. Thanks have a nice day.

Negative Losty,

A fetus by itself is a human being....not a potential human being...but an actual one.

A fetus by itself has no mother to incubate it, and hence it has no chance to live.

I'll just ignore your unfounded assertion that a fetus is inherently a person, as I have no need to argue against an opinion.

[Rampant.A.I.]

By your own logic, a fetus by itself has no potential to be a person. Thanks have a nice day.

Negative Losty,

A fetus by itself is a human being....not a potential human being...but an actual one.

That's weird. You keep changing your position here.

You weight the value of a baby as more than a fetus (see other thread) and yet now when it suits you, you've changed this view so that a fetus is equal to a fully grown person.

[Zidneya]

You want to kill something that could live for 80+ years, because you don't want to be inconveniences for 6-10 months, and you don't understand why some people have a problem with that?

I think it's mostly a religious issue, promoted by male-dominated religions. So they could just as easily shift the burden by starting a bit earlier in the process. For example: if you masturbate, you are potentially destroying a human life. If you use a condom, or pull out before you ejaculate, or perform anal or oral sex, you are preventing the conception of a human being who might live for 80+ years because you don't want to be inconvenienced for 18 years.

Yeah….And when I eat sunflower seeds I'm destroying an entire field.
And parenthood is a lifetime job genius not a 18 year old one. You don't think that? Well I have a crazy idea. ASK ANY COMPROMISED PARENT AND LET'S SEE WHAT THEY SAY TO YOU.

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A fetus by itself has no mother to incubate it, and hence it has no chance to live.

Touché

[Ryantology]

Anybody who feels a moral compulsion to force women to have babies they don't want, and who does not feel an equally-strong moral compulsion to ensure that these babies grow up without the fear of starvation or preventable medical problems, isn't pro-life at all. They believe that life is sacred until it is out of the womb. Then, fuck it.

As there aren't that many people who would be willing to pay to provide for the babies they want forced into the world, there aren't that many "pro-lifers". There are, however, a great many anti-choicers. It's just that rare opportunity to hide misogyny behind a mask of morality that is actually convincing to people who don't question them too carefully.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Absolutely couldn't agree more.

[Losty]

By your own logic, a fetus by itself has no potential to be a person. Thanks have a nice day.

Negative Losty,

A fetus by itself is a human being....not a potential human being...but an actual one.

My exact reason for saying person and not human being. Reading comprehension love

I already knew you were going to say that, that is why I didn't say human being. You see, to be a human being
Human- of human DNA
Being- a real or imaginary living creature
Easy

To be a person requires sentience.

[Buzz]

Anybody who feels a moral compulsion to force women to have babies they don't want, and 2who does not feel an equally-strong moral compulsion to ensure that these babies grow up without the fear of starvation or preventable medical problems, isn't pro-life at all. 1They believe that life is sacred until it is out of the womb. Then, fuck it.

1That is a strange stereotype regarding Pro-life people.


1The term pro-life is a label for persons who wish to safeguard infants by opposing abortion, not persons who wish to safeguard adults and older children.

The goal of the pro-life movement is to protect developing beings who are in a state where they are unable to defend and speak for themselves, 2not to provide healthcare and food; there are organizations specifically made to provide those necessities. Once the being who needs protecting develops to the stage where it can defend itself; (the age of reason) the job is done.

[Losty]

Anybody who feels a moral compulsion to force women to have babies they don't want, and 2who does not feel an equally-strong moral compulsion to ensure that these babies grow up without the fear of starvation or preventable medical problems, isn't pro-life at all. 1They believe that life is sacred until it is out of the womb. Then, fuck it.

1That is a strange stereotype regarding Pro-life people.


1The term pro-life is a label for persons who wish to safeguard infants by opposing abortion, not persons who wish to safeguard adults and older children.

The goal of the pro-life movement is to protect developing beings who are in a state where they are unable to defend and speak for themselves, 2not to provide healthcare and food; there are organizations specifically made to provide those necessities. Once the being who needs protecting develops to the stage where it can defend itself; (the age of reason) the job is done.

Please tell me you are being facetious???

[Esquilax]

1That is a strange stereotype regarding Pro-life people.


1The term pro-life is a label for persons who wish to safeguard infants by opposing abortion, not persons who wish to safeguard adults and older children.

The goal of the pro-life movement is to protect developing beings who are in a state where they are unable to defend and speak for themselves, 2not to provide healthcare and food; there are organizations specifically made to provide those necessities. Once the being who needs protecting develops to the stage where it can defend itself; (the age of reason) the job is done.

That's not pro-life, then. That's just pro-forced birth. Kind of a dishonest use of language, not to mention a demonstration that all of that emotionally charged rhetoric about poor little babies is just a smokescreen, and you don't actually care about the children themselves.