Is Eve in Hell right now?

[Godscreated]

Chances are the Adam and Eve story is actually based upon a set of characters in the Assyrian/Babylonian Empire who collaborated with the Egyptian Pharaoh (the serpent) against the Assyrian/Babylonian Emperor. Remember, the king of Tyre was said to have lived in the Garden of Eden and he got on the wrong side of the Emperor. The Egyptian Pharaohs had a figure of a serpent on their crown.

In essence the Adam & Eve story is just a fictionalized account of a real event that happened to some unnamed ancient political bigwigs. The story is a lot easier to remember as fiction than it wold have been using real names.

After all, only insane people believe that a real snake can talk using human language. Now if it had been a parrot....

You have little understanding of the scriptures, you've proved this over and over. The King of Tyre wasn't in the Garden and there was no snake in the Garden either.

GC

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Chances are the Adam and Eve story is actually based upon a set of characters in the Assyrian/Babylonian Empire who collaborated with the Egyptian Pharaoh (the serpent) against the Assyrian/Babylonian Emperor. Remember, the king of Tyre was said to have lived in the Garden of Eden and he got on the wrong side of the Emperor. The Egyptian Pharaohs had a figure of a serpent on their crown.

In essence the Adam & Eve story is just a fictionalized account of a real event that happened to some unnamed ancient political bigwigs. The story is a lot easier to remember as fiction than it wold have been using real names.

After all, only insane people believe that a real snake can talk using human language. Now if it had been a parrot....

You have little understanding of the scriptures, you've proved this over and over. The King of Tyre wasn't in the Garden and there was no snake in the Garden either.

GC

Oh, sorry! You weren't even close. The Hebrew word for snake (meaning the crawly, slithery reptile) is 'nachash', the same word translated into 'serpent' in Genesis.

As to the King of Tyre being in the Garden, I'm fairly sure you'll find it in Ezekiel, but I can't be arsed to look it up right now.

Anyroad, thanks for playing, and we have some lovely parting gifts for you.

Boru

[Confused Ape]

[Godscreated]

[Cato]

I disagree, if God had not put the Tree off limits through His commandment they would have eventually eaten from it. They then would have the knowledge that would lead to sin eventually, so eating from the Tree would have been disastrous. God had a reason for putting the Tree of limits, to preserve mankind in a sinless state and a continuous relationship with Him unbroken by sin. God placed a penalty on disobeying so they would understand that this specific action would result in wrong doing.

This coming from the guy that earlier said there was no setup.

[Bob Kelso]

I disagree, if God had not put the Tree off limits through His commandment they would have eventually eaten from it. They then would have the knowledge that would lead to sin eventually, so eating from the Tree would have been disastrous. God had a reason for putting the Tree of limits, to preserve mankind in a sinless state and a continuous relationship with Him unbroken by sin. God placed a penalty on disobeying so they would understand that this specific action would result in wrong doing.

This coming from the guy that earlier said there was no setup.

Dammit Cato, that was right in my wheelhouse...

First come, first serve I suppose.

[Confused Ape]

Simple answer to this, who says God cursed more than the serpent that tempted Eve, God created Lucifer. I do not believe that snakes eat the dust of the ground anymore than a legless lizard. The curse was on one legged creature, no more and no less.

GC

So you're saying that the serpent in Eden was actually Lucifer and real snakes in Eden were already without legs? Does that mean Lucifer/Satan has slithered around like a snake ever since he was cursed? If so, why mention snakes in the Genesis account? After all, it would have made more sense to say that Eve was deceived by a fallen angel.

Confused.

[Brakeman]

The Bible clearly says that the serpent/snake was a beast of the field. God's curse affected all snakes. If the serpent in Eden was a manifestation of Satan, why did God curse all serpents?..

Simple answer to this, who says God cursed more than the serpent that tempted Eve, God created Lucifer. I do not believe that snakes eat the dust of the ground anymore than a legless lizard. The curse was on one legged creature, no more and no less.

GC

How disingenuous of you,

3 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which Jehovah God had made.

14 And Jehovah God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, cursed art thou above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Clearly if god had been speaking of only that "one" single snake/satan, he would have not spoken about the "seed" phrases.
In addition, if an animal is not evolved to move upon their belly as a snake does, their musculature doesn't withstand the new form of locomotion and the animal dies. If you cut the legs off of your cow, the cow dies, she doesn't just learn to cope with the loss of her legs and start wiggling to and fro.

It's completely childish to put forth such silly apologies forth to make the story sensible. It is so obviously written by an ancient mid eastern goat herder and not some all knowing god.

[Artur Axmann]

Is Eve, from the Adam and Eve story, in hell right now?

She disobeyed god and started the whole sin trend in humans, so did god put her in an everlasting lake of fire?

If she repented, and god forgave and decided that he did want her to live with him forever why did he continue to expel her from his garden and continue to condemn her children?

If she is in hell, does she really deserve it? 6000 years of torture is a pretty stiff sentence served for unwittingly listening to another supreme being that you had no previous reasons to mistrust.

Eve is not in Hell. An allegory imparts spiritual truth ;hardly ever is it geographically or even theologically correct.

[Brakeman]

Is Eve, from the Adam and Eve story, in hell right now?
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Eve is not in Hell. An allegory imparts spiritual truth ;hardly ever is it geographically or even theologically correct.

Did god tell you this during one of your prayer session conversations with him?

Are you telling us that whenever a bible verse no longer makes sense given the current state of science, it automatically becomes allegory instead of mythical? Why did god give you the magical bible decoder ring that is really correct instead of all of the earlier church fathers and millions of today's fundi's?