Women stoned to death in Pakistan outside courtroom

[Losty]

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All revolutions may start with a single person standing up. I will agree with you on that. I am not a major history buff so I must have missed the revolution in the US when the black people stood up and killed off as many whites as they could and therefore saved themselves from oppression. I must have also missed the revolution when women in the US stood up and saved themselves from oppression by killing off all the men. I guess all that's left now is for the homosexuals to stand up and kill off all the heteros. Only then will America be a peaceful nation of black lesbians (ya know since everyone else has been killed off).

I said it in another thread and I will repeat it here. You will never see me celebrate mass murder. Ever.

To fix their problems, smart people need to stand up for what's right. The guy in the video I posted who admitted girls into his school, people like him make a huge difference. Those who are in the position to do so need to spread awareness and education. It wouldn't be easy and it would probably take decades but it is possible to make change that way.

Young women unarmed uneducated standing up and trying to kill off an entire race of educated armed men. Yea that isn't going to work. That's going to get a lot of innocent girls stoned to death. At the very best if enough if them were killed for dishonoring their families outside nations might step in and try to save them. Maybe.

Nat Turner started the ball rolling in 1831. Then John Brown. Then the Union troops joined in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner%..._rebellion The first ones to rise up will always pay the ultimate penalty but once a critical mass get it in their head that things must change the tide becomes irresistible.

About a dozen folks in England decided that the transatlantic slave trade was a bad thing. In the end the British government joined in and used its navy to put a stop to it.

There's a story in the Bible about Jael driving a tent peg into Sisera's head while he slept. That gave the Israelites the edge they needed to defeat the Canaanites.

When you're in a war you have to be willing to die and to kill. Those men are at war with their women so it's time for the women to step up like Jael did and whack their oppressors upside their heads, even while the men are sleeping if necessary.

"Their women"?

I just think that if you truly believe these women are to be blamed for their oppression. You're just as awful as the men who are oppressing them.
And, if you truly believe they can just rise up and kill all of the men and that's a good idea, then you're completely delusional.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Well, since they enjoy suffering let them suffer. It seems to make them happy.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

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No. It is not women's problem. When people are oppressed that is society's problem.

Little girls in Pakistan are sub-human at birth. They are not allowed to go to school. They are taught that their place in this world is to be silent, to be the honor of their father. They are taught to be submissive and obedient. They see that other girls and women are killed for dishonoring their family by being disobedient. In many (I would even say most) cases they are never exposed to any other kind of thinking. They cannot be out and about without a male escort. How in the actual hell do you think they're going to go about organizing some mob to kill off all the men?

Also, I never condone calling any person retarded for any reason. But I think it's especially disgusting in this case. These women are not given the opportunity to know better. At worst they are ignorant, but it isn't their fault. Blaming the victim (or in this case millions if victims), is not the answer.

My point is that it's the women's fault because they are a majority in their particular society. Therefore if they want to change it they must do it themselves. It's not my problem, or even your's unless you are involved in it.

Based upon my experience I know what I would do if I was part of that society, knowing what I know. Of course if I was devoid of my current understanding I might be a sheep just like they are.

If they're happy good for them. If they're unhappy then they need to change things. I'm just commenting on their situation because it pisses me off as a free-thinking adult American male in the 21st Century.

BTW, all revolutions start with just one person who got ticked off about something and decided to put his ass on the line to change it. So all it takes if for the first woman to clean house and tell why she did it. Then another one will do the same thing and the next thing millions will do it. When it reaches that stage the surviving men will stop acting like cave men and join the 21st Century. Of course the guys could always marry goats but the women will win either way.

A lot of women in those parts of the world are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai

A young girl who was shot repeatedly by the Taliban for refusing to heed their demands to not go to school.

She recovered in the hospital right next to where I live in the UK and now is an ambassador tirelessly campaigning for women's education in Pakistan and indeed anywhere where girls (and boys) are denied the right to education.

Indeed, her actions have meant that countless young girls in Pakistan can still go to school thanks to local community support rallying against the Taliban.

[Losty]

A lot of women in those parts of the world are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai

A young girl who was shot repeatedly by the Taliban for refusing to heed their demands to not go to school.

She recovered in the hospital right next to where I live in the UK and now is an ambassador tirelessly campaigning for women's education in Pakistan and indeed anywhere where girls (and boys) are denied the right to education.

Indeed, her actions have meant that countless young girls in Pakistan can still go to school thanks to local community support rallying against the Taliban.

I have pointed to Malala as an example of what women should be doing. WoG thinks they should rise up and murder all of the men in the country.
His idea is obviously well thought out and a better plan.

[Minimalist]

Oh, please. We've got enough fucking wars without looking for more. You can bet your ass that if a country WITH OIL were to do it we'd be a lot more interested than a country without oil.

I didn't say this was a good idea. I just said that's the only way it has even a small shot at success. I have already said, I think it's a stupid idea. Probably one of the worst ideas I've ever heard on this subject.

Careful saying that around republicunts. They'll put it together with my oil comment and conclude its a wonderful idea!

[Losty]

I didn't say this was a good idea. I just said that's the only way it has even a small shot at success. I have already said, I think it's a stupid idea. Probably one of the worst ideas I've ever heard on this subject.

Careful saying that around republicunts. They'll put it together with my oil comment and conclude its a wonderful idea!

Trust me, the republicans don't need my help thinking up stupid shit to try.

[Welsh cake]

I suggest banning marriage altogether until the human race can begin to act maturely and responsibly about it.

*watches the number of honor killings plummet*

[Losty]

I suggest banning marriage altogether until the human race can begin to act maturely and responsibly about it.

*watches the number of honor killings plummet*

Do you really think so? I don't.

"The most common excuse for ‘honour killings’ is suspicion of ‘intimate’ relations between a woman and a man, whether (alleged) adultery, sex outside of marriage, or simply becoming close companions. Even women that have been victims of rape and sexual assault are targets of ‘honour killings’, as certain communities legally and/or culturally equate these violent acts with sex outside of marriage. Yet women and girls have been killed for more trivial reasons as well, such as simply being in the presence of a male who is not a relative, refusing to agree to an arranged marriage, for falling in love with someone who is unacceptable by family standards, for seeking divorce, or for trying to escape marital violence. Sometimes, the mere perception that a woman has behaved disobediently, thus shaming her father, brother, uncle, or cousin, has been reason enough to make a brutal attack on her life."-See more at: http://www.violenceisnotourculture.org/f...Boli8.dpuf

[Dragonetti]

Women and girls are treated like personal property of the head male of the house hold.

Prearranged marriages are the selling of that property to another made. That is why there are dowries.

[Minimalist]

Careful saying that around republicunts. They'll put it together with my oil comment and conclude its a wonderful idea!

Trust me, the republicans don't need my help thinking up stupid shit to try.

Aye.