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An unorthodox belief in God.
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(June 7, 2014 at 7:10 pm)mickiel Wrote: Well thank you. May I make an observation I am curious about myself , about the atheist here that I view as a commonality; most of them curse like its a tradition to do here.

No, that would be utterly absurd. It's an international social forum. There are no traditions -- whatever the hell that means.

Quote:Their words slice you up like an expert butcher.

Slice you up like an expert butcher?!? What planet are you from? It's like you've never heard someone say fuck before.



Quote:Its as if cursing is a culture here , or a type of peer pressure; if you don't do it, why then you're not an atheist.
Reminds me of accepted arrogance, because its hard to curse without being arrogant about it.

I'm not an atheist, so you have no point here. I'm also not swearing. "Swearing" or "cursing" is what I do when I'm angry and out of control. With you I've merely used expletives that I deem appropriate and that you deem unacceptable. These expletives show the reader how ignorant I think your position is.

Also, you contradict yourself. On one hand, we're not smart enough to argue with the likes of your supremeness because we say a few words that you don't know how to use, but now you're saying that we're arrogant by adding an adjective like, fucking. For example, that entire statement you just made is fucking ignorant. Additionally, you're whining about swearing again, as if you get some kind of masturbatory pleasure from scolding others about stupid shit.



Quote:I also notice that a few have the manners to welcome guest, which is rewarding when you are a newcomer.

Had you come in here with a better attitude and not blathering on about things you know nothing about and scolding people, you would have been greeted by everyone in a pleasant manner. You made your own bed.

Quote:I also notice that some atheist like to threaten you, if they cannot get their way. Or change your way.

Please respond with a link to any personal threat you have received and this Staff WILL find a suitable discipline. I'll be waiting.

Quote:However, unlike you, I am not annoyed. Because I view these as really being human tendency, not atheist tendency.

Actually, you are the only one here who has implied that any tendency here is an atheist tendency. No one else has made that claim so you don't need to go around stating the obvious as if you're somehow "rising above it all." You sir, are the aggressor. Something we've come to expect from your kind.
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Badger Badger Badger Badger Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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(June 7, 2014 at 7:38 pm)mickiel Wrote: You got to be kidding; life and consciousness and this VAST universe is " pure, random , chaotic chance?" Man, what does atheism do to the human perception , its like it wipes out whole slabs of reality! It is denying our birth right and erasing our true heritage with god; Anyone can see this thing was intended and planned and designed.

goodness.

Why is it you think that your incredulity counts as an argument against a position? Thinking

Here's what I find interesting: the idea that consciousness evolved- again, not by chance as I told you in literally my first ever reply to you, and yet you're still using this strawman lie- without a designer completely blows your mind, and yet you believe in a god that is conscious and evidently much more complex than our own consciousnesses. So... where did that god's consciousness come from? Did it evolve? Did it just pop out of nothing? What?

See, this is the weakness of your position; your entire argument is "oh wow, you really believe consciousness just came about by chance?!" and yet the thing you believe in either just happened out of nothing- by chance- or always was, which is equally spontaneous. You keep telling us that consciousness has to have a designer while trying to sweep under the rug the fact that you already believe that consciousness can occur without a designer! Your underlying position invalidates the premises you're trying to impose on the rest of us, and I don't see how you can resolve this double standard without special pleading.

Now, you talked about swearing earlier, and asked if it was some atheist tradition. I can't be bothered to go back and find the quote but I will point out that I haven't once cursed in any of my posts to you beyond a mild "crap" in one, I believe. I did this in the hopes that it'd cause you to sit up and see that someone is attempting to enter into this conversation on somewhat even ground, and I've been disappointed by just how many of my posts you've ignored in order to chastise those that do swear. It seems like you're more interested in pointing out those that don't follow your conversational preferences than responding to those that do. On the off chance that this is just a coincidence, I think the point I made in the paragraph preceding this one is worth a response, don't you?
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Mickiel, finding places mentioned in the bible, does not prove that the events actually happened.
Spiderman lives in NewYork. Hopefully you know that NewYork exists, by your logic, that means that spiderman and all his various adventures, really happened.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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(June 8, 2014 at 6:41 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Mickiel, finding places mentioned in the bible, does not prove that the events actually happened.
Spiderman lives in NewYork. Hopefully you know that NewYork exists, by your logic, that means that spiderman and all his various adventures, really happened.

Not to mention it is a very obvious attempt to grasp at straws.

When that sort of thing is the standard of evidence that comes from that argument, you can pretty much guarantee that the argument is not worth making.
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(June 8, 2014 at 12:31 pm)mickiel Wrote: I disagree, I am not religious , I have absolutely nothing to do with religion.

I'm guessing this mean you don't belong to any organised religion. What's getting me confused is your saying you aren't a Christian but you keep using the Bible to justify your belief in God. What about other religions' concepts of God? Have you ever found anything besides the Bible which you regard as evidence for your belief?
Badger Badger Badger Badger Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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(June 6, 2014 at 10:15 am)Chas Wrote: Life is suited to the earth. You have the cart before the horse.

There is a spider on my wall. How fortunate that the wall is there, otherwise the poor animal would be sitting there in midair, hanging on nothing.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(June 6, 2014 at 10:45 am)mickiel Wrote: It had to be part of a plan of god to have theism and atheism.

For what purpose?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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