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An unorthodox belief in God.
RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
mickiel ' Wrote: He is not male or female, he is not human. And we know about him by what knowledge has been provided by every knowledge avialible to us.

So 'it' would be more appropriate.
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An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 9, 2014 at 11:27 am)mickiel Wrote:
(June 9, 2014 at 11:10 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: So your answer is egotism of the highest level combined with (another) bare assertion.

Evidence there is no life anywhere in the universe?


It's just a shame they're all entirely fallacious and thus fail to contribute to anything beyond a personal level.



No its not that they don't contribute or is not evidence, its really my evidence is not accepted HERE! I can list books as evidence, websites, but if they are unaccepted here, then you can label it anything you wish. I can't give you scientific papers that agree with me, because most scientist don't.

I can give things like this;
http://godandscience.org/apologetics/cosmoconstant.html

To show earth was suited for man; Or this;

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/see-why-earth...-for-life/

This is not going to be accepted here; hey just reject it, disagree with it, but don't accuse me of trolling, I believe everything I post. Don't try and intimidate me.

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Wikipedia Wrote:There are diverse interpretations of Christianity which sometimes conflict.[2][3] However, "Whatever else they might disagree about, Christians are at least united in believing that Jesus has a unique significance.”[2]

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/cultur...-life.html

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_g...'s_fallacy

http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?t...g_argument
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 8:40 am)mickiel Wrote: I did not want to put this in the religious section, because I am not religious. I am not christian, not with any group, but I do believe in god, and will explain and debate why. There are a growing number of believers in God who do not adhere to traditional religions and customs, nor explinations of god. I certainly don't. I have been banned from enough christian websites to know just how much we disagree. There are more views of god, than Christian - atheist views.

Why do I believe in god?

Well this list will be quite extensive, but I will begin with " Consciousness", and please excuse me for capitalizing consciousness. Some here seem to put meaning behind a simple capitalization, when there is none in this writer.

Consciousness, the governor of our behavior. I do not believe that a thing like consciousness can be the result of random evolution; although I believe in evolution, just not 100% of the common definition of the term, I think its a tool of god. Not a tool of magic luck. I think our consciousness was designed to continue to evolve, like many things God designed. And yes, I do figure that design requires a designer, or is evidence of one.

I do not think consciousness could be arrived at from things " lesser than itself", such as unconscious things like rocks, matter and chemicals; no. This fingers a god in my figuration.

How could we arrive at awareness as a result of magical physical unaware things combining slowly over billions of years? Even the flesh of humans and animals, which is another proof of God, how can we arrive at having flesh on bones, and then pop a thing like consciousness into it? This is asking more than facts and faith or belief, its asking us to accept miracles! Oh, all of a sudden individual bones decided to slowly grow into individual parts of the human body, like plants growing from the ground? Then each specific part had a mind of its own and injected itself into other parts and eventually got it right and formed a skeleton? Which then figured out 5 billion years later how to cloak itself in flesh?

And nature was kind enough to reward this thing with a brain?

And then somehow, a trillion years later, it DEVELOPED consciousness? Now I am being comical for sure, but you get the point. In my view, consciousness is " A spirit IN humans", which was put in the body by another conscious spirit; which again points me to a god. And that spirit is what consciousness is, its biblically defined as " The image of god", meaning consciousness. How is something physical, like nature or matter, going to produce a spirit thing like consciousness?

That is like saying that dead things can produce life. Which I think is another proof of god, only consciousness can birth consciousness , only life can produce life; only a human can birth a human; we are not continuous with the idiot hierarchy of speechless apes.

You sound like one of those mislead deists. That's a shame. The one TRUE God is not someone to take litely. You should get your heart right as quickly as you can. The Lord Jesus Christ will discard you as quickly as he does the atheists who deny him.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 9, 2014 at 6:34 pm)Insanity Wrote:
mickiel ' Wrote: He is not male or female, he is not human. And we know about him by what knowledge has been provided by every knowledge avialible to us.

So 'it' would be more appropriate.



I think " It", explains more that we know than " Him." But it is probally closer to the truth; yes.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 9, 2014 at 6:56 pm)Eye of God Wrote: You sound like one of those mislead deists. That's a shame. The one TRUE God is not someone to take litely. You should get your heart right as quickly as you can. The Lord Jesus Christ will discard you as quickly as he does the atheists who deny him.

Clap

And he hits the ground running. This will be interesting for a while.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 9, 2014 at 6:56 pm)Eye of God Wrote: You sound like one of those mislead deists. That's a shame. The one TRUE God is not someone to take litely. You should get your heart right as quickly as you can. The Lord Jesus Christ will discard you as quickly as he does the atheists who deny him.


I don't believe in that jesus, I believe in the one who came here for ALL humans and is not going to leave any out. I do not adhere to the Christian view of jesus.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
Popcorn
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
This shit just got real
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 9, 2014 at 6:56 pm)Eye of God Wrote: You sound like one of those mislead deists. That's a shame. The one TRUE God is not someone to take litely. You should get your heart right as quickly as you can. The Lord Jesus Christ will discard you as quickly as he does the atheists who deny him.

OOOooooohhhh. This might get interesting guys...

Dumb has challenged dumber! Let the duel commence!
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An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 9, 2014 at 7:02 pm)mickiel Wrote:
(June 9, 2014 at 6:56 pm)Eye of God Wrote:



I don't believe in that jesus, I believe in the one who came here for ALL humans and is not going to leave any out. I do not adhere to the Christian view of jesus.

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